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Re: America WILL NOT protect us.

Post by helian » Wed May 06, 2009 5:34 pm

JW Frogen wrote: The Chinese have been remarkable inventors but not always remarkable about how they applied such inventions, for stance gun powder become more than simply fire works when the more dynamic Western Civilization got a hold of it.

Still, China has taken hold of the Western idea of markets and combined it with state control that has provided remarkable results.

As for foreign policy, China has not always been inward looking. Indeed the reason China is so large is that in various periods of her history she has been an expansionist power.

In modern history she has been at war or attacked almost every one of her neighbors, but with the exception of Tibet has never really wished to colones them, only chastise or exploit them.
Although I've yet to read 'Bomb, Book and Compass', it appears the Chinese used gunpowder in exactly the same way the West came to use it - for war.

From Wikipedia :
Gunpowder

Although evidence of gunpowder's first use in China comes from the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms Period (907–960),[30] the earliest known recorded recipes for gunpowder were written by Zeng Gongliang, Ding Du, and Yang Weide in the Wujing Zongyao military manuscript compiled in 1044 during the Song Dynasty (960–1279); the gunpowder formulas described were used in incendiary bombs lobbed from catapults, thrown down from defensive walls, or lowered down the wall by use of iron chains operated by a swape lever.[31][32][33] Bombs launched from trebuchet catapults mounted on forecastles of naval ships ensured the victory of Song over Jin forces at the Battle of Caishi in 1161, while the Mongol Yuan Dynasty (1271–1368) used gunpowder bombs during their failed invasion of Japan in 1274 and 1281.[32] During the 13th and 14th centuries, gunpowder formulas became more potent (with nitrate levels of up to 91%) and gunpowder weaponry more advanced and deadly, as evidenced in the Ming Dynasty (1368–1644) military manuscript Huolongjing compiled by Jiao Yu (fl. 14th to early 15th century) and Liu Ji (1311–1375), completed sometime before the latter's death with a preface added by the former in a 1412 Nanyang publication of the work.[34]
Let's hope they choose not to chastise or exploit Oz.

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Re: America WILL NOT protect us.

Post by JW Frogen » Wed May 06, 2009 5:47 pm

helian wrote: Although I've yet to read 'Bomb, Book and Compass', it appears the Chinese used gunpowder in exactly the same way the West came to use it - for war.

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Well then they weren’t very creative at learning how to use it at war given that a bunch of hick Europeans carved them up like a Peking duck, almost solely through superior fire power.

As for China and Australia, wise nations do not hope, they plan.

helian

Re: America WILL NOT protect us.

Post by helian » Wed May 06, 2009 5:57 pm

JW Frogen wrote:As for China and Australia, wise nations do not hope, they plan.
And the best laid plans of mice and men...

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Re: America WILL NOT protect us.

Post by JW Frogen » Wed May 06, 2009 5:58 pm

helian wrote:
And the best laid plans of mice and men...
Become Rabbit stories before Lenny gets put down.

Life is tough I tells ya.

helian

Re: America WILL NOT protect us.

Post by helian » Wed May 06, 2009 6:10 pm

JW Frogen wrote:
helian wrote:
And the best laid plans of mice and men...
Life is tough I tells ya.
Aye that be troo...

And Robbie Burns knew it too.

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Re: America WILL NOT protect us.

Post by White Indigene » Wed May 06, 2009 11:02 pm

helian wrote:
JW Frogen wrote:As for China and Australia, wise nations do not hope, they plan.
And the best laid plans of mice and men...
Aah the rat bait for the lesser Gen'.

Did you know know, the the lesser generations are set to pay dearly for the faults of the era of the biggots??

Buck stop GenZ.

Sorry Scotty, my Blowtorch beamme up dictum has failed. Im caught in the fourth estate.
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Acknowledge ...

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Re: America WILL NOT protect us.

Post by Jovial Monk » Wed May 06, 2009 11:04 pm

WTF, over callsign WI!

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