The humanities may seem pointless, but that is the point

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Re: The humanities may seem pointless, but that is the point

Post by Black Orchid » Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:03 pm

brian ross wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:07 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 5:26 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:39 pm
In IT, if I want to understand how TCP/IP works, I consult a university trained Systems Engineer. If I want TCP/IP to work, I consult a TAFE trained Systems Administrator. He can connect up the devices and get them to talk to one another but is at a loss when that doesn't work, whereas the Systems Engineer can figure out the reasons why it isn't working.
If you are a professional IT Systems Engineer why do you need to consult anyone?
'cause I don't know everything, Black Orchid and I am quite willing to admit my ignorance when asked a question which I don't know the answer to.
If I employed a Systems Engineer I would expect him to know everything related to his field of expertise.

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Re: The humanities may seem pointless, but that is the point

Post by Neferti » Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:06 pm

He did a Bas (LOL) and got a credit for "computer studies". :rofl

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Re: The humanities may seem pointless, but that is the point

Post by brian ross » Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:29 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:03 pm
brian ross wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:07 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 5:26 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:39 pm
In IT, if I want to understand how TCP/IP works, I consult a university trained Systems Engineer. If I want TCP/IP to work, I consult a TAFE trained Systems Administrator. He can connect up the devices and get them to talk to one another but is at a loss when that doesn't work, whereas the Systems Engineer can figure out the reasons why it isn't working.
If you are a professional IT Systems Engineer why do you need to consult anyone?
'cause I don't know everything, Black Orchid and I am quite willing to admit my ignorance when asked a question which I don't know the answer to.
If I employed a Systems Engineer I would expect him to know everything related to his field of expertise.
Then you would be foolish, System Engineers like all professional people tend to specialise in particular technologies. I specialise in Unix and Linux with a smattering of Windoze thrown in. Give me a system which is malfunctioning and I will fix it so that it works properly. However, I admit I know very little about databases. I am not a DBA nor have I ever claimed to be one. Unlike Neferti, I know a lot about hardware and software and the interactions between the two. I can script and at a pinch, I can program. I know all about security and firewalls.
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Re: The humanities may seem pointless, but that is the point

Post by brian ross » Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:31 pm

Neferti~ wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:06 pm
He did a Bas (LOL) and got a credit for "computer studies". :rofl
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Re: The humanities may seem pointless, but that is the point

Post by Nicole » Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:02 pm

brian ross wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:31 pm
Neferti~ wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:06 pm
He did a Bas (LOL) and got a credit for "computer studies". :rofl
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Ok come on Brian. That was actually quite funny. Lighten up dude it’s Christmas.

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Re: The humanities may seem pointless, but that is the point

Post by Bobby » Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:39 pm

brian ross wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:29 pm

Then you would be foolish, System Engineers like all professional people tend to specialise in particular technologies. I specialise in Unix and Linux with a smattering of Windoze thrown in. Give me a system which is malfunctioning and I will fix it so that it works properly. However, I admit I know very little about databases. I am not a DBA nor have I ever claimed to be one. Unlike Neferti, I know a lot about hardware and software and the interactions between the two. I can script and at a pinch,
I can program. I know all about security and firewalls.

dear Brian,
do you think you could stop boasting especially when this an anonymous forum?

I could say that I had a PhD in computer studies and how could you disprove me?

People can boast with any bullshit here - it doesn't impress me.
You lack a Knight's humility.

forgiven

namaste

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Re: The humanities may seem pointless, but that is the point

Post by brian ross » Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:33 pm

Bobby wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:39 pm
brian ross wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:29 pm

Then you would be foolish, System Engineers like all professional people tend to specialise in particular technologies. I specialise in Unix and Linux with a smattering of Windoze thrown in. Give me a system which is malfunctioning and I will fix it so that it works properly. However, I admit I know very little about databases. I am not a DBA nor have I ever claimed to be one. Unlike Neferti, I know a lot about hardware and software and the interactions between the two. I can script and at a pinch,
I can program. I know all about security and firewalls.
dear Brian,
do you think you could stop boasting especially when this an anonymous forum?

I could say that I had a PhD in computer studies and how could you disprove me?

People can boast with any bullshit here - it doesn't impress me.
You lack a Knight's humility.

forgiven

namaste
Bobby, I am not boasting, I am stating facts.

You can lie as much as you desire, I tell the truth.
Nationalism is not to be confused with patriotism. - Eric Blair

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Re: The humanities may seem pointless, but that is the point

Post by Bobby » Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:03 am

brian ross wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:33 pm
Bobby wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:39 pm
brian ross wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:29 pm

Then you would be foolish, System Engineers like all professional people tend to specialise in particular technologies. I specialise in Unix and Linux with a smattering of Windoze thrown in. Give me a system which is malfunctioning and I will fix it so that it works properly. However, I admit I know very little about databases. I am not a DBA nor have I ever claimed to be one. Unlike Neferti, I know a lot about hardware and software and the interactions between the two. I can script and at a pinch,
I can program. I know all about security and firewalls.
dear Brian,
do you think you could stop boasting especially when this an anonymous forum?

I could say that I had a PhD in computer studies and how could you disprove me?

People can boast with any bullshit here - it doesn't impress me.
You lack a Knight's humility.

forgiven

namaste
Bobby, I am not boasting, I am stating facts.

You can lie as much as you desire, I tell the truth.

dear Brian,
Which is the greatest quality of knighthood?



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Re: The humanities may seem pointless, but that is the point

Post by brian ross » Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:17 pm

Bobby wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:03 am
brian ross wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:33 pm
Bobby wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:39 pm
brian ross wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:29 pm

Then you would be foolish, System Engineers like all professional people tend to specialise in particular technologies. I specialise in Unix and Linux with a smattering of Windoze thrown in. Give me a system which is malfunctioning and I will fix it so that it works properly. However, I admit I know very little about databases. I am not a DBA nor have I ever claimed to be one. Unlike Neferti, I know a lot about hardware and software and the interactions between the two. I can script and at a pinch,
I can program. I know all about security and firewalls.
dear Brian,
do you think you could stop boasting especially when this an anonymous forum?

I could say that I had a PhD in computer studies and how could you disprove me?

People can boast with any bullshit here - it doesn't impress me.
You lack a Knight's humility.

forgiven

namaste
Bobby, I am not boasting, I am stating facts.

You can lie as much as you desire, I tell the truth.
dear Brian,
Which is the greatest quality of knighthood?
Who cares? Knights no longer exist in Australia. They have no special privilege. :roll:
Nationalism is not to be confused with patriotism. - Eric Blair

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Re: The humanities may seem pointless, but that is the point

Post by Bobby » Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:41 pm

brian ross wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:17 pm
Bobby wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:03 am
brian ross wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:33 pm
Bobby wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:39 pm
brian ross wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:29 pm

Then you would be foolish, System Engineers like all professional people tend to specialise in particular technologies. I specialise in Unix and Linux with a smattering of Windoze thrown in. Give me a system which is malfunctioning and I will fix it so that it works properly. However, I admit I know very little about databases. I am not a DBA nor have I ever claimed to be one. Unlike Neferti, I know a lot about hardware and software and the interactions between the two. I can script and at a pinch,
I can program. I know all about security and firewalls.
dear Brian,
do you think you could stop boasting especially when this an anonymous forum?

I could say that I had a PhD in computer studies and how could you disprove me?

People can boast with any bullshit here - it doesn't impress me.
You lack a Knight's humility.

forgiven

namaste
Bobby, I am not boasting, I am stating facts.

You can lie as much as you desire, I tell the truth.
dear Brian,
Which is the greatest quality of knighthood?
Who cares? Knights no longer exist in Australia. They have no special privilege. :roll:
The message is still relevant:


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