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- Black Orchid
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Re: Melbourne Crime Crisis
They think one of his 'sovereign citizen' crackpot mates is harbouring him.
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Re: Melbourne Crime Crisis
When we have a recklessly dysfunctional government, it only stands to reason that we'll see a polarisation in radicalised world- views, particularly when these sorts of people read articles like the following....
https://www.news.com.au/national/politi ... 1613f9a051
When already unhinged people feel their own families, communities, " sovereignty " is under threat, they begin to see our authorities as the mortal enemy. They read articles online, via the media/ social media radical-groups forums where groups of unhinged people like themselves congregate and reinforce eachothers warped/radicalised ideology, and suddenly, their crack-pot views on how to combat our nations problems no longer seem outrageous to them, rather feels necessary. Just!
You see, by sensationalising and shifting the focus to a "valid" concern that most Australians can relate to since this reckless government installed itself by default, Desmond is able to "NOT" hold himself to account for the underlying reason why the police arrived at his home with a search warrant to begin with.
Whoever is harbouring him, if someone is, they're likely to be a paedophile sympathiser or one themselves. Or are themselves that unhinged that they're still believing Desmond's " narrative " rather than the facts at hand.
You see, someone who wasnt mad and didn't have something to hide simply would have stepped asside and let the police do their job, and if innocent, and they found absolutely nothing to substantiate their "lawful " intrusion, he would have "cashed-in" with yet more publicity and argued that police are in fact harassing him along with his family, with nonsicle search warrants causing stress and fear .... which in turn "COULD" have have had the potential to justify his cause further. But this time it was different .. I think he knew they'd find something ( or already had) nasty and this would ruin his distorted and inflated image of himself as being a patriotic family man who feels passionate about our governments authorities abuse of power, so decided then and there that if HE was going to be taken down, he was going to take THOSE he held the most contempt for most "police" with him, which was neither heroic or justified, his actions indicate a failure of character in the face of a challenge. He's just a grub and a coward underneath all that bravado.
The police he shot are likely patriotic family men who were there just doing their jobs, and a very difficult job which takes a very dedicated and empathetic officer to even consider. The psychological impact of this very difficult kind of policing often results in officers themselves burning-out very quickly and or themselves enduring PTSD.
Their hearts were in the right spot, and they wanted to make a difference in a particularly difficult area of policing that few police officers are willing to do, and for this alone, these three police officers/detectives from SOCIT were heroes, including the one who managed to survive the ambush.
They were instructed by their superiors to conduct a search warrant of his compound.... and while they knew he had a history of doing battle with police, legal wise, and was also "legally "armed, they hadn't anticipated that he would react this way given he hadn't in the past. Fair, but personally I wouldn't have been completely at ease with ambushing him the way they did because the man had already verbally expressed his macabre views regarding police, to basically anyone who'd listen, on forums, podcasts, YouTube, and some of these views alone rang alarm bells for me, particularly the " only good cop is a dead cop" and how he believes all police and government officials should be incinerated, exterminated ...he had dehumanised them, saw them as vermin and was himself armed and under serious threat of exposure, loss of perceived "righteous " reputation within at least his unhinged community and "listeners " whom shared his distorted world views.
This was all he had, and given he saw himself as a bit of a local pseudo-law guru, a legend, perhaps a celebrity even? if found guilty, he knew that he would have gone from the "self- created" autonimous Desy Freeman, back to Desmond Filby the mere kiddy fiddler and lunatic, and his family life, his self- perceived social standing and cause, his mere net worth, such as it was ( 10 hectares of rugged bushland and a bus compound) would be over
He likely felt like king of his castle with all those subordinates residing/camping freely perhaps even, on his property sharing and reinforcing his warped views. He's a typical narcissist, and had police had a chance or the resources and time to complete a thorough forensic psychological assessment of him prior to this tragedy, then those poor police mightn't have died.
This man was a huge risk, and this warrant stood to effectively destroy his life and to a point whereby he might as well be dead, so he's responded accordingly, and exactly how a radicalised unhinged and "armed" hateful individual would likely respond.
How didn't police see this coming?
Because they lacked the necessary re$ourses to complete a thorough risk- assessment?
I sincerely hope the police uninion isn't so under-the-thumb of this woeful government of ours that they are able to raise this issue and feel "safe" requesting an enquiry into this mess.
We've lost so many police in recent years, and I don't know about you guys, though if our police don't feel safe or adequately resourced to go about their duties, then what does this mean for our communities?
The bad guys are winning!
His wife Mali should be thoroughly investigated too.
https://www.news.com.au/national/politi ... 1613f9a051
When already unhinged people feel their own families, communities, " sovereignty " is under threat, they begin to see our authorities as the mortal enemy. They read articles online, via the media/ social media radical-groups forums where groups of unhinged people like themselves congregate and reinforce eachothers warped/radicalised ideology, and suddenly, their crack-pot views on how to combat our nations problems no longer seem outrageous to them, rather feels necessary. Just!
You see, by sensationalising and shifting the focus to a "valid" concern that most Australians can relate to since this reckless government installed itself by default, Desmond is able to "NOT" hold himself to account for the underlying reason why the police arrived at his home with a search warrant to begin with.
Whoever is harbouring him, if someone is, they're likely to be a paedophile sympathiser or one themselves. Or are themselves that unhinged that they're still believing Desmond's " narrative " rather than the facts at hand.
You see, someone who wasnt mad and didn't have something to hide simply would have stepped asside and let the police do their job, and if innocent, and they found absolutely nothing to substantiate their "lawful " intrusion, he would have "cashed-in" with yet more publicity and argued that police are in fact harassing him along with his family, with nonsicle search warrants causing stress and fear .... which in turn "COULD" have have had the potential to justify his cause further. But this time it was different .. I think he knew they'd find something ( or already had) nasty and this would ruin his distorted and inflated image of himself as being a patriotic family man who feels passionate about our governments authorities abuse of power, so decided then and there that if HE was going to be taken down, he was going to take THOSE he held the most contempt for most "police" with him, which was neither heroic or justified, his actions indicate a failure of character in the face of a challenge. He's just a grub and a coward underneath all that bravado.
The police he shot are likely patriotic family men who were there just doing their jobs, and a very difficult job which takes a very dedicated and empathetic officer to even consider. The psychological impact of this very difficult kind of policing often results in officers themselves burning-out very quickly and or themselves enduring PTSD.
Their hearts were in the right spot, and they wanted to make a difference in a particularly difficult area of policing that few police officers are willing to do, and for this alone, these three police officers/detectives from SOCIT were heroes, including the one who managed to survive the ambush.
They were instructed by their superiors to conduct a search warrant of his compound.... and while they knew he had a history of doing battle with police, legal wise, and was also "legally "armed, they hadn't anticipated that he would react this way given he hadn't in the past. Fair, but personally I wouldn't have been completely at ease with ambushing him the way they did because the man had already verbally expressed his macabre views regarding police, to basically anyone who'd listen, on forums, podcasts, YouTube, and some of these views alone rang alarm bells for me, particularly the " only good cop is a dead cop" and how he believes all police and government officials should be incinerated, exterminated ...he had dehumanised them, saw them as vermin and was himself armed and under serious threat of exposure, loss of perceived "righteous " reputation within at least his unhinged community and "listeners " whom shared his distorted world views.
This was all he had, and given he saw himself as a bit of a local pseudo-law guru, a legend, perhaps a celebrity even? if found guilty, he knew that he would have gone from the "self- created" autonimous Desy Freeman, back to Desmond Filby the mere kiddy fiddler and lunatic, and his family life, his self- perceived social standing and cause, his mere net worth, such as it was ( 10 hectares of rugged bushland and a bus compound) would be over
He likely felt like king of his castle with all those subordinates residing/camping freely perhaps even, on his property sharing and reinforcing his warped views. He's a typical narcissist, and had police had a chance or the resources and time to complete a thorough forensic psychological assessment of him prior to this tragedy, then those poor police mightn't have died.
This man was a huge risk, and this warrant stood to effectively destroy his life and to a point whereby he might as well be dead, so he's responded accordingly, and exactly how a radicalised unhinged and "armed" hateful individual would likely respond.
How didn't police see this coming?
Because they lacked the necessary re$ourses to complete a thorough risk- assessment?
I sincerely hope the police uninion isn't so under-the-thumb of this woeful government of ours that they are able to raise this issue and feel "safe" requesting an enquiry into this mess.
We've lost so many police in recent years, and I don't know about you guys, though if our police don't feel safe or adequately resourced to go about their duties, then what does this mean for our communities?
The bad guys are winning!
His wife Mali should be thoroughly investigated too.
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Re: Melbourne Crime Crisis
I have my own views about this, perhaps they want him to think they believe he's at a mates house, caravan or shed, so he surfaces and attempts to remove himself from the current search area?Black Orchid wrote: ↑Sat Aug 30, 2025 12:48 pmThey think one of his 'sovereign citizen' crackpot mates is harbouring him.
They have technology capable of detecting heat, guaranteed they have a large percentage of the current search area covered but if he managed to escape the search zone somehow, then where would they begin looking next?
He knows that his best bet would be to stay put, deep underground for as long as possible.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if he's built some sort of underground compound somewhere, it's likely that his wife Mali and possibly his eldest child knows about it.
It's likely full of supplies, perhaps even a two- way radio?
He could live comfortably in such a compound for months,a year even, depending on its anticipated purpose.
If he anticipated that he'd become a Ned Kelly kind of figure then who knows, he could be living as comfortably as a Hobbit , keeping nice and warm, well nourished and next to a pile of books

He could have already left unbeknown to the driver. Vehicles like, 4x4 + caravans, Truck, Car & horse floats whatever. ..... and this could have occured very shortly after the incident itself, meaning he could have already left the area and be in Tasmania by now.
Illegal immigrants & criminals aren't the only ones with false documents ... ( he's changed his identity once before that we know of) much of his life seems shrouded in mystery.. he could easily survive this if he's had time to prepare and plan, or has specialist military training himself and has prepared shelters/bunkers for WW3

Where has he worked in the past?
Where did he go to school?
Who are/were his parents and family?
How did he come to be in possession of 10 hectares of Alpine forest without an employment history?
Who are the people who were also living on his property?
Who is Mali Freeman, rather who was she?
She's also changed her name at least once previously, and her previous anglisied name doesn't appear to match her ancestry.
They've lead a secretive off-grid life this pair and I find it interesting.
Does he have any political associations other than the illusive Sovereign Citizens?
In Ballarat, we have a network of underground tunnels, ( not just the 600+ metres deep active 24/7 gold mine) but historic tunnels just beneath our very feet. Our tunnels are expansive, with plenty of scope to use them to evade police?
We also have natural caves where the public aren't permitted to go, not because they're dangerous but because many are on private property, like the ones that are under Mount #$@&*%, large enough underground cave system which has a cathedral like open- area once you crawl through several small tunnel systems, ( map required however I believe ) which eventually opens up into a huge chamber.
It's on private property however, but given the terrain here is similar to the Alpine region, all part of great diving range with dormant volcano's with lava tubes .... Desy Kelly could easily be hiding out somewhere just like this, not necessarily old gold mines or tunnels.
The caving community would be useful to collaborate with, along with underground graffiti networks. They prefer the term "artists " and they're easy enough to find on Facebook.
There's also "tunnelers " these groups are tight-knit communities who are simply into exploring tunnels, caves, drains, etc. Though some are into graffiti "art".
https://www.goldfieldsguide.com.au/blog ... -st-arnaud
Skipton Caves (also known as the Widderin Caves or Widderin Ballroom), which are a lava tube system near Skipton, about 40 minutes from Ballarat. These caves feature a large, flat-floored chamber called "The Ballroom," which was historically used for parties and dances in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
He could be living/staying anywhere, meanwhile the cops are combing the rugged terrain of where he was last seen
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Re: Melbourne Crime Crisis
A 13yo Melbourne boy sparked widespread anger when he escaped a murder conviction because of his age. He is now accused of a sickening new act.
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Ms Cutler’s son Declan — who she remembers as a “fun-loving, smart, kind, big goofy boy” — was murdered by a gang of teens in Coburg North, 10km from the Melbourne CBD, in the early hours of March 13, 2022.
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He had been at a house party with friends and was ambushed when he left. He was stomped on, kicked and stabbed and sustained more than 100 separate injuries including 29 stab wounds. His last moments were filled with “screams of horror”, a court previously heard.
Four of the teenage attackers were found guilty of murder and sentenced to between 17 and 19 years in jail.
But one of the teens — who was 13 at the time — was cleared of murdering Cutler because of his young age despite footage showing him stomping on the victim’s head repeatedly while others stabbed him and returning to stomp on his unconscious body a second time after the first frenzied attack ended.
Supreme Court Justice Rita Incerti found in 2023 that despite the criminal age of responsibility being 10 in Victoria, there was a “reasonable probability (the boy) did not know (his) conduct was seriously wrong in a moral sense”.
The teen “cannot be found guilty of murder or the alternative charge of manslaughter”, she ruled.
In a twist that has left Cutler’s mother “heartbroken” and angry all over again, that teenage boy is accused of a disturbing and shockingly violent crime that has again shaken Melbourne to its core.
Now aged 16, he is accused of taking part in an aggravated home invasion in Gladstone Park last month that saw a 60-year-old man stabbed countless times, shot in the arm and bashed repeatedly with a hammer.
https://www.news.com.au/national/victor ... 1c43a4d269

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Ms Cutler’s son Declan — who she remembers as a “fun-loving, smart, kind, big goofy boy” — was murdered by a gang of teens in Coburg North, 10km from the Melbourne CBD, in the early hours of March 13, 2022.
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He had been at a house party with friends and was ambushed when he left. He was stomped on, kicked and stabbed and sustained more than 100 separate injuries including 29 stab wounds. His last moments were filled with “screams of horror”, a court previously heard.
Four of the teenage attackers were found guilty of murder and sentenced to between 17 and 19 years in jail.
But one of the teens — who was 13 at the time — was cleared of murdering Cutler because of his young age despite footage showing him stomping on the victim’s head repeatedly while others stabbed him and returning to stomp on his unconscious body a second time after the first frenzied attack ended.
Supreme Court Justice Rita Incerti found in 2023 that despite the criminal age of responsibility being 10 in Victoria, there was a “reasonable probability (the boy) did not know (his) conduct was seriously wrong in a moral sense”.
The teen “cannot be found guilty of murder or the alternative charge of manslaughter”, she ruled.
In a twist that has left Cutler’s mother “heartbroken” and angry all over again, that teenage boy is accused of a disturbing and shockingly violent crime that has again shaken Melbourne to its core.
Now aged 16, he is accused of taking part in an aggravated home invasion in Gladstone Park last month that saw a 60-year-old man stabbed countless times, shot in the arm and bashed repeatedly with a hammer.
https://www.news.com.au/national/victor ... 1c43a4d269

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Re: Melbourne Crime Crisis
tllwd wrote: ↑Sat Aug 30, 2025 12:11 pmHe doesn't really need hot food and fire in this climate unless he plans to stay in hideout for fairly long time, dry food like fruit&nut trail mix and biltong or jerky would be enough as long as there is fresh water.
For how long can police sustain this level of effort?Apparently there are 450 cops looking for this guy
Also, does Victorian police use experience trackers with dogs and/or drones with thermal detection capabilities?
At the end it will come to Philby's psychological fortitude. Is he capable to stay inactive for prolong time without doing something stupid? I don't think he can.
I have experience in cold mountain conditions - from long ago.
You do need hot food and fire is good but
a super high quality sleeping bag can also save your life.
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Re: Melbourne Crime Crisis
Canadians would laugh at our definition of cold, Russians and the Scandinavian countries too.
Compared to their cold, ours is literally a walk in the park.
The right clothes , shelter and non perishable food, ... . I think he'd have a cave somewhere , he could literally be under their very noses.
Or escaped initially, and be anywhere in Australia.
10 cops ambushed him, he shot 3, and managed to take their ammo and disappear with his entire family?
Why do I get the feeling this wasn't planned well by our cops?
Compared to their cold, ours is literally a walk in the park.
The right clothes , shelter and non perishable food, ... . I think he'd have a cave somewhere , he could literally be under their very noses.
Or escaped initially, and be anywhere in Australia.
10 cops ambushed him, he shot 3, and managed to take their ammo and disappear with his entire family?
Why do I get the feeling this wasn't planned well by our cops?
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Re: Melbourne Crime Crisis
On another hand temperature close to +30C in northern Russia is an emergency when ambulances have to be on standby as old and weak drop near dead from overheating.mellie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 31, 2025 9:32 amCanadians would laugh at our definition of cold, Russians and the Scandinavian countries too.
Compared to their cold, ours is literally a walk in the park.
The right clothes , shelter and non perishable food, ... . I think he'd have a cave somewhere , he could literally be under their very noses.
As for hidden shelter it doesn't have to be a cave
Some fugitives used to hide in holes like this for years, the only give away is thermal air flow from ventilation shaft that can be seen on cold morning but you have to be pretty close to see it.
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Re: Melbourne Crime Crisis
That's very cool, I want it!
And yes, exactly!
This is the perfect room for me to escape from my children to, especially Monday mornings on 1980s dress up days
And yes, exactly!
This is the perfect room for me to escape from my children to, especially Monday mornings on 1980s dress up days

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Re: Melbourne Crime Crisis
I doubt Dezis hideout would be this elaborate, I'm inclined to think he's fitted out an existing cave hide-out, where thermal heat wouldn't be detectable due to various natural vents, or an old mine shaft.
There was a rapist in Ballarat who lured a girl to a disused old mine shaft and sexually assaulted her there for over a week before police found them at black Hill reserve, a nice place people take their kids to play or dogs for a walk .
He had made this squat ( mine shaft ) his home, complete with fittings , a pantry, table, bed, and the police had checked this mine twice before finally finding them behind what appeared to be like a false rock wall.
This happened not all that long ago, perhaps around the time we moved to Ballarat.
It's believed Ballarat has plenty more of these off-gridders who live in disused mines or fit them out for later use, for all sorts of reasons, there's local rumours that bikies are using part of a cave system in Skipton as a meth lab too.
Wouldn't suprise me, because you do see a lot of them riding out that way, and they could easily utilise Ballarats natural and unnatural shelters for this purpose. Historical old brick and blue stone eerie tunnels beneath our city, mine shafts, natural cave systems.... it's definitely the place to come if you don't want to be found or want to do private business.
Ballarat is Melbourne Ganglands burial ground.
There was a rapist in Ballarat who lured a girl to a disused old mine shaft and sexually assaulted her there for over a week before police found them at black Hill reserve, a nice place people take their kids to play or dogs for a walk .
He had made this squat ( mine shaft ) his home, complete with fittings , a pantry, table, bed, and the police had checked this mine twice before finally finding them behind what appeared to be like a false rock wall.
This happened not all that long ago, perhaps around the time we moved to Ballarat.
It's believed Ballarat has plenty more of these off-gridders who live in disused mines or fit them out for later use, for all sorts of reasons, there's local rumours that bikies are using part of a cave system in Skipton as a meth lab too.

Wouldn't suprise me, because you do see a lot of them riding out that way, and they could easily utilise Ballarats natural and unnatural shelters for this purpose. Historical old brick and blue stone eerie tunnels beneath our city, mine shafts, natural cave systems.... it's definitely the place to come if you don't want to be found or want to do private business.
Ballarat is Melbourne Ganglands burial ground.
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