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- IQS.RLOW
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Re: Global Warming
Not to worry...DaS valve will fix it along with AIDS, cancer and cot death.
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Re: Global Warming
And it will be used to rewrite the laws of physics now the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics is proven to be wrong leading to a full unified theory of everything and don't forget the recognition.IQS.RLOW wrote:Not to worry...DaS valve will fix it along with AIDS, cancer and cot death.

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Well said Tim....Super Nova wrote:It is a waste of time. You are correct.Rorschach wrote:lots of dissembling happening there on SN and poxy's part IQS.... waste of time arguing with those in complete denial and wedded to their climate religion.
I will invest in a property on the edge of the blue mountains so I can secure my beach front property for future generations and I shall build a wading pool as a monument to the ignorance of the deniers.



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Re: Global Warming
Minister Greg Hunt.
Thank you for coming here today. I appreciate the opportunity to speak with you about the Coalition Government's plan to tackle climate change and reduce pressure on electricity prices.
Let me set out the points of bipartisan agreement in this area:
##We agree on the science
##We agree on the targets
##We agree on market mechanisms"
Thank you for coming here today. I appreciate the opportunity to speak with you about the Coalition Government's plan to tackle climate change and reduce pressure on electricity prices.
Let me set out the points of bipartisan agreement in this area:
##We agree on the science
##We agree on the targets
##We agree on market mechanisms"
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Now here is a compelling reason to do something about climate change.
Surfers not have enough waves to ride is just not acceptable as adoption options maybe limited to wave making machines. The whole Australian surfer dude life is at risk.
Completely unacceptable consequence to the pig ignorance of the climate change deniers.
Bondi Beach surfers warned of fewer big waves due to climate change

Surfers in eastern Australia have been warned that large waves could become less frequent, as the number of days with waves of 12 feet or more will drop by up to 40 per cent by the end of the century
Researchers have warned surfers along Australia's east coast that the days of big waves are set to end, with climate change expected to cause a severe drop in the frequency of large ocean waves.
The study, published in Nature Climate Change, found the number of days with large waves of 12 feet or more on Australia's east coast will drop by up to 40 per cent by the end of the century and about by 20 per cent over the next 30 years. The findings were based on measurements from five buoys in deep ocean waters located about four to eight miles off the coast of the state of New South Wales. These measurements were collated with storm data collected from the atmosphere.
"Results are remarkably consistent between different [climate models], allowing anthropogenic influences to be clearly demonstrated, with fewer days with large waves expected to occur in eastern Australia due to increasing greenhouse gas concentrations," the study says.
Australia's east coast has some of the country's most famous surf beaches, including the popular tourist spots of Bondi, Manly and Byron Bay.
Dr Andrew Dowdy, a researcher from the Centre for Australian Weather and Climate Research, said storm waves were likely to be less frequent in the future but those that do occur may be more intense. He said there would be "little or no change on waves lower than four metres".
"Some changes are likely to have already started happening, but towards the end of this century we are expecting about 40 per cent fewer storm wave events under a high emissions scenario," he told ABC News.
Surfers on Australia's east coast have already begun to complain of worsening conditions, with some saying this year has been the worst in living memory.
"You look back [to] when you were a little kid and seem to think there was always big surf," a surfer from Sydney's Maroubra beach, Richie Vaculik, told Fairfax Media.
"But last winter hardly any of the big wave spots fired at all."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... hange.html
Surfers not have enough waves to ride is just not acceptable as adoption options maybe limited to wave making machines. The whole Australian surfer dude life is at risk.
Completely unacceptable consequence to the pig ignorance of the climate change deniers.
Bondi Beach surfers warned of fewer big waves due to climate change

Surfers in eastern Australia have been warned that large waves could become less frequent, as the number of days with waves of 12 feet or more will drop by up to 40 per cent by the end of the century
Researchers have warned surfers along Australia's east coast that the days of big waves are set to end, with climate change expected to cause a severe drop in the frequency of large ocean waves.
The study, published in Nature Climate Change, found the number of days with large waves of 12 feet or more on Australia's east coast will drop by up to 40 per cent by the end of the century and about by 20 per cent over the next 30 years. The findings were based on measurements from five buoys in deep ocean waters located about four to eight miles off the coast of the state of New South Wales. These measurements were collated with storm data collected from the atmosphere.
"Results are remarkably consistent between different [climate models], allowing anthropogenic influences to be clearly demonstrated, with fewer days with large waves expected to occur in eastern Australia due to increasing greenhouse gas concentrations," the study says.
Australia's east coast has some of the country's most famous surf beaches, including the popular tourist spots of Bondi, Manly and Byron Bay.
Dr Andrew Dowdy, a researcher from the Centre for Australian Weather and Climate Research, said storm waves were likely to be less frequent in the future but those that do occur may be more intense. He said there would be "little or no change on waves lower than four metres".
"Some changes are likely to have already started happening, but towards the end of this century we are expecting about 40 per cent fewer storm wave events under a high emissions scenario," he told ABC News.
Surfers on Australia's east coast have already begun to complain of worsening conditions, with some saying this year has been the worst in living memory.
"You look back [to] when you were a little kid and seem to think there was always big surf," a surfer from Sydney's Maroubra beach, Richie Vaculik, told Fairfax Media.
"But last winter hardly any of the big wave spots fired at all."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... hange.html
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- IQS.RLOW
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Re: Global Warming
Or we could just file this one along with every other doomsayers prediction such as "the rains that fall won't fill our dams" and "hurricanes will get more extreme" or "children won't know what snow is"
Every one of these 'predictions' you post from a 'study' does you religion more harm than good. People are over being proselytised too from over zealous gumbies who drink from the royal chalice of koolaid while speaking about the next tragedy about to unfold that never ends up happening.
Keep it up, SN.
your zealotry says more than I ever could. 
Every one of these 'predictions' you post from a 'study' does you religion more harm than good. People are over being proselytised too from over zealous gumbies who drink from the royal chalice of koolaid while speaking about the next tragedy about to unfold that never ends up happening.
Keep it up, SN.


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Re: Global Warming
Bollocks IQ. You are in denial of the RISKs. You prefer to ignore them and hope for the best.
here is another consequence of warming. Even 1 degree has an impact.
Malaria 'spreading to new altitudes'
By Rebecca Morelle
Warmer temperatures are causing malaria to spread to higher altitudes, a study suggests.

Researchers have found that people living in the highlands of Africa and South America are at an increased risk of catching the mosquito-borne disease during hotter years.
They believe that temperature rises in the future could result in millions of additional cases in some areas.
The research is published in the journal Science.
Prof Mercedes Pascual, from the University of Michigan in the US, who carried out the research, said: "The impact in terms of increasing the risk of exposure to disease is very large."
Areas at higher altitudes have traditionally provided a haven from this devastating disease.
Both the malaria parasite and the mosquito that carries it struggle to cope with the cooler air.
Prof Pascual said: "The risk of the disease decreases with altitude and this is why historically people have settled in these higher regions."
But the scientists say the disease is entering new regions that had previously been malaria-free.
To investigate, scientists looked at densely populated areas in the highlands of Colombia and Ethiopia, where there are detailed records of both temperature and malaria cases from the 1990s to 2005.
They found that in warmer years, malaria shifted higher into the mountains, while in cooler years it was limited to lower elevations.
"This expansion could in a sense account for a substantial part of the increase of cases we have already observed in these areas," said Prof Pascual.
Ethiopian Highlands The highlands of Ethiopia could be more vulnerable to malaria if temperatures rise
The team believes that rising temperatures could cause a further spread.
In Ethiopia, where nearly half of the population live at an altitude of between 1,600m (5,250ft) and 2,400m, the scientists believe there could be many more cases.
"We have estimated that, based on the distribution of malaria with altitude, a 1C rise in temperature could lead to an additional three million cases in under-15-year-olds per year," said Prof Pascual.
The team believes that because people living in areas that have never been exposed to malaria are particularly vulnerable to the disease, attempts to stop the spread should be focused on areas at the edge of the spread. The disease is easier to control there than at lower altitudes where it has already established.
According to the latest estimates from the World Health Organization, there were about 207 million cases of malaria in 2012 and an estimated 627,000 deaths. Most deaths occur among children living in Africa.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-26470755
here is another consequence of warming. Even 1 degree has an impact.
Malaria 'spreading to new altitudes'
By Rebecca Morelle
Warmer temperatures are causing malaria to spread to higher altitudes, a study suggests.

Researchers have found that people living in the highlands of Africa and South America are at an increased risk of catching the mosquito-borne disease during hotter years.
They believe that temperature rises in the future could result in millions of additional cases in some areas.
The research is published in the journal Science.
Prof Mercedes Pascual, from the University of Michigan in the US, who carried out the research, said: "The impact in terms of increasing the risk of exposure to disease is very large."
Areas at higher altitudes have traditionally provided a haven from this devastating disease.
Both the malaria parasite and the mosquito that carries it struggle to cope with the cooler air.
Prof Pascual said: "The risk of the disease decreases with altitude and this is why historically people have settled in these higher regions."
But the scientists say the disease is entering new regions that had previously been malaria-free.
To investigate, scientists looked at densely populated areas in the highlands of Colombia and Ethiopia, where there are detailed records of both temperature and malaria cases from the 1990s to 2005.
They found that in warmer years, malaria shifted higher into the mountains, while in cooler years it was limited to lower elevations.
"This expansion could in a sense account for a substantial part of the increase of cases we have already observed in these areas," said Prof Pascual.
Ethiopian Highlands The highlands of Ethiopia could be more vulnerable to malaria if temperatures rise
The team believes that rising temperatures could cause a further spread.
In Ethiopia, where nearly half of the population live at an altitude of between 1,600m (5,250ft) and 2,400m, the scientists believe there could be many more cases.
"We have estimated that, based on the distribution of malaria with altitude, a 1C rise in temperature could lead to an additional three million cases in under-15-year-olds per year," said Prof Pascual.
The team believes that because people living in areas that have never been exposed to malaria are particularly vulnerable to the disease, attempts to stop the spread should be focused on areas at the edge of the spread. The disease is easier to control there than at lower altitudes where it has already established.
According to the latest estimates from the World Health Organization, there were about 207 million cases of malaria in 2012 and an estimated 627,000 deaths. Most deaths occur among children living in Africa.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-26470755
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Re: Global Warming
Right IQ. What do you say to the principle that action taken to remove CFCs to protect the planet has reduced the warming effect due to CFCs and therefore contribute to the lack of warming as projected because they were not modelled. That is: positive action taken by the world based on scientific analysis and forecast lead to the world acting as one to correct something in the environment that was principally manmade.
The pause is partially explained. Now this explanation needs to pass further validation as I'm sure it is not the only contributor.
What will you say if this is the first step to a real explanation?
Do you need me to provide a new bucket of sand?
Ozone chemicals ban linked to global warming 'pause'
By Matt McGrath
A new study suggests that the ban on ozone depleting chemicals may have also impacted the rise in global temperatures.
CFC gases were responsible for a massive hole in the ozone layer but they also had a powerful greenhouse effect.
The authors link a ban on their use to a "pause" or slowdown in temperature increases since the mid 1990s.
The research is published in the journal Nature Geoscience.
The subject of a hiatus or standstill in global temperatures rises since 1998 has been the subject of intense debate among scientists, and it has been used as a key argument by some to show that the impacts of global warming have been exaggerated.
There have been a number of theories as to why the rise in emissions from CO2 and other gases has not been mirrored in temperatures since the late 1990s.
These include increases in China's use of coal, changes in solar output, and the impact of the El Nino weather cycle.
One report earlier this year suggested that it was caused by long-term changes in the warming of waters in the eastern Pacific.
Now this latest piece of research says that it has been caused by attempts to protect the ozone layer.
A team of researchers carried out a statistical analysis on the connection between rising temperatures and rates of increase in concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere between 1880 and 2010.
They concluded that changes in the warming rate can be attributed to specific human actions that affected greenhouse gas concentrations.
The onset of the current pause coincides with a spike in upper ocean heat uptake around 2002 (lower graph).
It may have begun when energy trapped by greenhouse gases was buried below the surface of the ocean
However, the continuation of the pause in global surface warming beyond 2004 coincides with a decline in upper ocean heat uptake
Understanding the cause of this decline in upper ocean heat content is crucial for explaining the continuation of the pause in surface warming
They were able to show that when emissions were reduced during both world wars and the Great Depression, temperature rises also stalled.
They also argue that the introduction of the Montreal Protocol, originally signed in 1987 by 46 countries, had an impact on global temperatures as well.
The treaty phased out the use of chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs). These chemicals, used as spray can propellants and in refrigeration, had helped thin the ozone layer over Antarctica.
But CFCs were not just damaging the ozone layer, they were also having a warming impact, as they are 10,000 times more powerful than carbon dioxide and can last up to 100 years in the atmosphere.
Their removal, say the authors, was a critical factor in the slowdown.
spray The phasing out of CFCs in spray cans may also have impacted the increase in temperatures in the 1990s
"Our analysis suggests that the reduction in the emissions of ozone-depleting substances under the Montreal Protocol, as well as a reduction in methane emissions, contributed to the lower rate of warming since the 1990s," the authors write.
In a commentary on the research, Felix Pretis and Prof Myles Allen from Oxford University suggest that the CFC ban is "unlikely to be the whole story", but they acknowledge it did make a difference.
"The impact of this change is small but not negligible: without the reduction in CFC emissions, temperatures today could have been almost 0.1C warmer than they actually are."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24874060
The pause is partially explained. Now this explanation needs to pass further validation as I'm sure it is not the only contributor.
What will you say if this is the first step to a real explanation?
Do you need me to provide a new bucket of sand?
Ozone chemicals ban linked to global warming 'pause'
By Matt McGrath
A new study suggests that the ban on ozone depleting chemicals may have also impacted the rise in global temperatures.
CFC gases were responsible for a massive hole in the ozone layer but they also had a powerful greenhouse effect.
The authors link a ban on their use to a "pause" or slowdown in temperature increases since the mid 1990s.
The research is published in the journal Nature Geoscience.
The subject of a hiatus or standstill in global temperatures rises since 1998 has been the subject of intense debate among scientists, and it has been used as a key argument by some to show that the impacts of global warming have been exaggerated.
There have been a number of theories as to why the rise in emissions from CO2 and other gases has not been mirrored in temperatures since the late 1990s.
These include increases in China's use of coal, changes in solar output, and the impact of the El Nino weather cycle.
One report earlier this year suggested that it was caused by long-term changes in the warming of waters in the eastern Pacific.
Now this latest piece of research says that it has been caused by attempts to protect the ozone layer.
A team of researchers carried out a statistical analysis on the connection between rising temperatures and rates of increase in concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere between 1880 and 2010.
They concluded that changes in the warming rate can be attributed to specific human actions that affected greenhouse gas concentrations.
The onset of the current pause coincides with a spike in upper ocean heat uptake around 2002 (lower graph).
It may have begun when energy trapped by greenhouse gases was buried below the surface of the ocean
However, the continuation of the pause in global surface warming beyond 2004 coincides with a decline in upper ocean heat uptake
Understanding the cause of this decline in upper ocean heat content is crucial for explaining the continuation of the pause in surface warming
They were able to show that when emissions were reduced during both world wars and the Great Depression, temperature rises also stalled.
They also argue that the introduction of the Montreal Protocol, originally signed in 1987 by 46 countries, had an impact on global temperatures as well.
The treaty phased out the use of chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs). These chemicals, used as spray can propellants and in refrigeration, had helped thin the ozone layer over Antarctica.
But CFCs were not just damaging the ozone layer, they were also having a warming impact, as they are 10,000 times more powerful than carbon dioxide and can last up to 100 years in the atmosphere.
Their removal, say the authors, was a critical factor in the slowdown.
spray The phasing out of CFCs in spray cans may also have impacted the increase in temperatures in the 1990s
"Our analysis suggests that the reduction in the emissions of ozone-depleting substances under the Montreal Protocol, as well as a reduction in methane emissions, contributed to the lower rate of warming since the 1990s," the authors write.
In a commentary on the research, Felix Pretis and Prof Myles Allen from Oxford University suggest that the CFC ban is "unlikely to be the whole story", but they acknowledge it did make a difference.
"The impact of this change is small but not negligible: without the reduction in CFC emissions, temperatures today could have been almost 0.1C warmer than they actually are."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24874060
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Re: Global Warming
Again, just more scaremongering that doesn't eventuate. I realise you must love to live your life in panic, but most of us have a reasonable bullshit detector. Yours appears to be broken.
Eventually, one day you might jag a prediction, even a broken clock is right twice a day but the facts are, none of the warmist hysterics have managed to come close to their scaremongering. You must be disappointed the glaciers are still their, polar bears aren't extinct, the Great Barrier Reef isn't a massive white skeleton, etc etch etc...17 years and no warming.
I know its like telling you your god isn't real and how offended you must be but its the science and you can't ignore that, can you?
Eventually, one day you might jag a prediction, even a broken clock is right twice a day but the facts are, none of the warmist hysterics have managed to come close to their scaremongering. You must be disappointed the glaciers are still their, polar bears aren't extinct, the Great Barrier Reef isn't a massive white skeleton, etc etch etc...17 years and no warming.
I know its like telling you your god isn't real and how offended you must be but its the science and you can't ignore that, can you?
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