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Re: Global Warming

Post by IQS.RLOW » Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:34 pm

Right IQ. What do you say to the principle that action taken to remove CFCs to protect the planet has reduced the warming effect due to CFCs
It's not a principle, its a theory that was invented when they found out that their first theory was wrong, so they made up another untestable, unquantifiable theory to cover their other untestable unquantifiable theory.

As theories go, it probably has as much weight as the catastrophic AGW theory you are filling the back of your pants about. The first was wrong, the second might be as well.

Hard to know when they aren't real science.
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Re: Global Warming

Post by Super Nova » Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:35 pm

IQS.RLOW wrote:I know its like telling you your god isn't real and how offended you must be but its the science and you can't ignore that, can you?
We all know the truth don't we. God is upset because we have legalise gay marriages and the heating is to turn the planet to hell with floods, famine, fire, ....etc joining in on the way. If you look away like you are, maybe you will be spared.

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Re: Global Warming

Post by IQS.RLOW » Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:39 pm

Malaria 'spreading to new altitudes'
Ironic that you mention Malaria. The biggest cause of the spread in Malria in recent times has been the green scaremongering of DDT. Another leftwing scare campaign that resulted in the deaths of millions for an ideological cause with no basis in fact.

How very ironic. There are consequences for things that you do and things that you don't do. The cure can be worse than the cause and in ideological cases, this is usually the case.
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Re: Global Warming

Post by IQS.RLOW » Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:43 pm

Super Nova wrote:
IQS.RLOW wrote:I know its like telling you your god isn't real and how offended you must be but its the science and you can't ignore that, can you?
We all know the truth don't we. God is upset because we have legalise gay marriages and the heating is to turn the planet to hell with floods, famine, fire, ....etc joining in on the way. If you look away like you are, maybe you will be spared.

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You haven't just had a sip of the koolaid SN, you have tied yourself to the keg and the piss trough next to the bar where they are serving it and you are lying there begging for recycled koolaid to be anointed upon you. Screeching for them to facialize you so you can partake in their koolaid as well.

You poor gullible little man.
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Re: Global Warming

Post by IQS.RLOW » Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:49 pm

Tell me SN, I will believe the CAGW theory when the facts bear out that this will happen and predictions do actually happen. I will question my belief when they get it right. My belief is they have no idea.

How many times do they have to get it wrong before you question your religion? When and what will cause you to open your eyes and believe the facts?
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Re: Global Warming

Post by Super Nova » Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:59 am

More updates from 3 weeks ago.

Meteos Energy & Climate Change Update 17th February 2014
Meteos produces an informal bi-weekly briefing on global headlines relating to energy and climate change, including climate science, politics and policy, investment, supply and demand, technology and public opinion. Each briefing highlights policy, industry and civil society developments relevant to the sector, which we consider likely to be of interest to multiple stakeholders.
John Kerry to make clarion call for more action on climate change CNN  US Secretary of State John Kerry called on all nations to respond to "the greatest challenge of our generation" and said that climate change ranks among the world's most serious problems along with disease outbreaks, poverty, and terrorism.  Kerry acknowledged the role the United States plays in greenhouse gas emissions and referred to the President's Climate Action Plan, which calls for cutting emissions by 17 percent from 2005 levels.  A few days before, Obama toured a California farm hit by serious and prolonged drought. He warned that some damage to the climate had already been done and will continue unless countries "do more to combat the carbon pollution that causes climate change."
US may begin to get it and start to take a lead.
Climate change threatens to cause trillions in damage to world's coasts Global Climate Forum  According to a new study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, global average storm surge damages could increase from about 10-40 billion USD per year today to up to 100,000 billion USD per year by the end of century, if no adaptation action is taken.  The study lead by the Berlin-based think-tank Global Climate Forum (GCF) presents, for the first time, comprehensive global simulation results on future storm surge damages to buildings and infrastructure. Drastic increases in these damages are expected, on one hand, due to rising sea-levels and, on the other hand, due to population and economic growth. Asia and Africa may be particularly hard hit because of their rapidly growing coastal mega-cities, such as Shanghai, Manila or Lagos.
 With protection measures, the projected damages could be reduced to below 80 billion USD per year during the 21st century. The researchers found that investments level of 10 to 70 billion USD per year could achieve such a reduction.
Now IQ. The cost to adaption is growing and for coasts appears to be less than the cost of doing nothing. Time to pony up spending on adaption.

No soup for you. Next.
UK Met Office speaks out on climate change and weather Met Office; Carbon Brief  The British Government's main climate science adviser, the UK Met Office, says the present exceptionally wet and stormy winter "could be a manifestation of climate change."  Its chief scientist, Dame Julia Slingo, says the variable UK climate means there is "no definitive answer" to what is producing this winter weather, with the "most exceptional period of rainfall in 248 years". But "all the evidence suggests there is a link to climate change".  The Met Office, with the UK's Centre for Ecology & Hydrology, concluded that, over the United Kingdom "What in the 1960s and 1970s might have been a 1 in 125 day event is now more likely to be a 1 in 85 day event."  In contrast, only seven per cent of news articles on the topic mentioned the potential link to a changing climate, according to Carbon Brief’s analysis
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Climate change increasing the occurrence of extreme weather in the UK. (high economic cost)
Church of England vows to fight “great demon” of climate change Guardian  The General Synod of the Church of England voted 274 to 1 to fight climate change with divestment from fossil fuel companies that "resist change" as a last resort.  It was agreed that a working group on the environment would be created to monitor the church's action on climate change and other environmental issues.  The church's Ethical Investment Advisory Group has so far resisted calls for the church to divest, insisting that engagement is the best way to effect change. However, the deputy chairman of the Group, Rev Canon Professor Richard Burridge noted that the church is open to different action and noted that the church had sold its £3.8m stake in the controversial mining company Vedanta four years ago following concerns about its human rights record.
God is on their side so they must be right.
HSBC Carbon and coal revisted report RenewEconomy  A new report from leading investment bank HSBC says the market value of the coal assets owned by Australia’s biggest mining groups could be slashed by nearly half – or by more than $US20 billion.  The report by HSBC, an update of a previous assessment conducted in 2012, suggests that BHP Billiton has the biggest exposure in nominal terms – nearly $8 billion. Other companies to be affected are Rio Tinto, Anglo American and Glencore Xstrata.  The valuations are based around the potential impact of a carbon budget, a concept that HSBC says is gaining traction globally given the latest climate science, and because the pollution control policies in the two biggest economies, the US and China, are starting to bite.
Is this the reason you hate climate change policy as it threatens the value of digging up Australia and exporting it with no value add? (high economic cost)

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Re: Global Warming

Post by Rorschach » Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:59 am

:rofl :roll: :hlo :du :hi2
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Re: Global Warming

Post by Rorschach » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:01 am

Seems to me IQS... SN and his acolytes etc are all trying to grab onto anything to save their sinking ship of belief.

Sad... and pathetic. :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: Global Warming

Post by IQS.RLOW » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:14 am

Bump...
IQS.RLOW wrote:Tell me SN, I will believe the CAGW theory when the facts bear out that this will happen and predictions do actually happen. I will question my belief when they get it right. My belief is they have no idea.

How many times do they have to get it wrong before you question your religion? When and what will cause you to open your eyes and believe the facts?
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Re: Global Warming

Post by IQS.RLOW » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:23 am

Public apathy on climate change is a cause for celebration, not concern

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/brend ... t-concern/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The executive secretary of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, Christiana Figueres, has said scientists and UN officials should stop using "weirdo words" when talking about climate change. By talking in scientific jargon and using acronyms that fly over the heads of Joe and Josephine Public, the climate-change lobby is bamboozling rather than enlightening the masses, she said. Panicked that the public switches off – or more likely sinks into a coma – whenever an expert with more PhDs than sense holds forth on climate change, Ms Figueres says climate-change folk are "just not communicating properly".
This alleged crisis of eco-communication, the failure of enviro-experts to make a connection with, far less fire up, the man in the street, weighs heavily on green-leaning minds. In the Guardian this week, an eco-worrier says climate-change activists must try harder to bridge the gap between "the abstruse nature of expert discourse" and people's "ordinary lives" (shortened version: let's find a way to make really complicated stuff understandable to ill-educated folk more used to reading Heat the celebrity magazine than Heat the George Monbiot book).
All sorts of green groups have come up with communication strategies to address what they view as the public's apathy ("indolence of mind": OED) on all matters climatic. Some of the strategies are gob-droppingly patronising. One, titled Communicating Climate Change to Mass Public Audiences, published by the Climate Change Advisory Group, says the masses are likely to feel "sad or angry" when told the economy and their own personal wealth cannot keep growing forever. They will experience "painful emotions of grief for a society that must undergo changes" and they might even adopt "maladaptive coping strategies", such as "denial of responsibility, blaming others, or becoming apathetic". And it falls to the eco-enlightened to help the moronic masses through these feelings and encourage them to shift towards "pro-environmental behaviour". In this reading, the green lobby is Oprah and the dumb public are just so many basket cases plonked on its couch, waiting to have their frazzled minds re-educated with eco-conscious ideas.
What that says SN, is that the debate is over. No one, except for the minority lunatics is listening because the bullshit is so obvious.

Do you note in yourself the same mindset as the Climate Change Advisory Group? The zealotry?
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