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Jovial Monk
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by Jovial Monk » Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:01 pm
TomB wrote:I would vote yes for the right model of republic for no better reason than self pride and confirmed independence regardless of the things it wouldn't fix.
I wouldn't vote for one such as that proposed by lil johnny whereby we get no say in the selection of our own head of state.
I agree with that 1000%
Not a hatred of Britain, we owe her much.
After the Republic, maybe we can start looking at the flag
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crazychemist
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by crazychemist » Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:26 pm
If something isnt broken why fix !!!
on the other hand.. why is it so out of the question to remove the state system.. have one minister of health, etc, etc.. and establish microinstitutions which would prevent centralisation, and manage local affairs. And stop the blame game at every election and every fault.
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Jovial Monk
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by Jovial Monk » Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:04 am
It IS broken in that we are really independent and pretending some old bird or her cretinous son 14,000Km away is our head of state is getting old.
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White Indigene
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by White Indigene » Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:49 pm
So why dont we just declare independence and be done with it then?
If all the proffering pundits are correct, it will pass easily, the declaration.
Perhaps the Left will not allow this, because of their little purile preference for revolutions all-sorts. They want to fight about it, and thats that.
I stand by what I said, and to you Skipit, I say that if you dont like my choice of words, bad luck. If choose to write it in a lingo more suited to the APS or whatever, then so be it. What I said is accurate, and will remain so. So get over it.
"It might also be appropriate to revisit chapters V ands VI in relation to the states and new states! Short of having the sort of courage the New Zealanders have demonstrated, I suppose I reach the view that we have the least bad political system and we would be hard pressed to design and implement something better."
Ken Baxter
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Where to for Australian Federalism. 2008.
I wonder if Baxter was recognising NZ as a political Gulag. Or was the reference to courage something to do with reform. Either way, the exodus to West NZ continues apace.
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skippy
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by skippy » Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:22 pm
White Indigene wrote:So why dont we just declare independence and be done with it then?
If all the proffering pundits are correct, it will pass easily, the declaration.
Perhaps the Left will not allow this, because of their little purile preference for revolutions all-sorts. They want to fight about it, and thats that.
I stand by what I said, and to you Skipit, I say that if you dont like my choice of words, bad luck. If choose to write it in a lingo more suited to the APS or whatever, then so be it. What I said is accurate, and will remain so. So get over it.
"It might also be appropriate to revisit chapters V ands VI in relation to the states and new states! Short of having the sort of courage the New Zealanders have demonstrated, I suppose I reach the view that we have the least bad political system and we would be hard pressed to design and implement something better."
Ken Baxter
in
Where to for Australian Federalism. 2008.
I wonder if Baxter was recognising NZ as a political Gulag. Or was the reference to courage something to do with reform. Either way, the exodus to West NZ continues apace.
OOh skipit, how long did it take to think up that name WI?, you really are an a grade cocksmoker arn't you?
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White Indigene
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by White Indigene » Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:29 pm
Say it isnt so Skip
I dare you
"SPARE a thought [like HELL] for John Aquilina. After 25 years in Parliament - many of them in high-paying jobs - he was promised by Labor's former general-secretary Mark Arbib that he would remain in the Speaker's role, complete with $231,605 salary, should he run in the seat of Riverstone again in 2007.So when the former premier Morris Iemma pulled the rug from under Mr Aquilina and made the independent MP Richard Torbay the Speaker after the election, Mr Aquilina was given the job of Government Leader in the House, even though that job invariably goes to a minister."
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/coa ... 96369.html
Meanwhile we have this abhorence:-
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/cas ... 86925.html
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/blo ... 86931.html
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/inj ... 86937.html
This health crisis has been brought up before here on PA. And while it might take some time to fix, I dont believe the hospitals will ever be brought back to a pro-human situation. The underlying oligarchic agenda obviates this. The constant media spin trotted out every time something bad happens only serves these days to cement a realisation -in the minds of the normal and the sane- that the political masters world view and lives come first. All others can take a back seat. Especially in an ALP state.
We know this Hospital crisis thing is not normal.
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skippy
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by skippy » Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:52 pm
You're a bitter man WI, whats up? you miss out on ALP pre selection.
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Jovial Monk
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by Jovial Monk » Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:58 pm
"The underlying oligarchic agenda obviates this."
Do you understand what you are writing?
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White Indigene
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by White Indigene » Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:24 pm
skippy wrote:You're a bitter man WI, whats up? you miss out on ALP pre selection.
Wouldnt dream of it.
Im glad you asked though, cause the timing is good.
I once had one of the
Barstard Boys tell me on site, that if I, quote> "stuffed this up" [whatever that meant then or now], Id "never work again in this country". Thats what one of them mutts said to a farm boy out in the free world.
Since then they have worked to accomplish their fantasies. So I know where and who they are now.
And I await my time.
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White Indigene
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by White Indigene » Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:36 pm
Jovial Monk wrote:"The underlying oligarchic agenda obviates this."
Do you understand what you are writing?
YEP
I think the problem with the Left of Ausland is that it can no longer destinguish between fantasy and reality. Therefore, it cannot recognise itself in
reaal terms> It cannot realise that IT -as a quasi religious beleif- fails. Socialism -the dream- is not cognitive of itself, as a failing thing. The dream as pushed along, is to acheive full socialism. The harder it is puhed, the more failure it produces.
Think of it in terms of a cyclic nightmare.
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