

I don't hate Trump. He does not affect my life, except indirectly and so I hold no antipathy towards him. I dislike his supporters though, who refuse to look at reality and realise the bullshit they are peddling is just another brand of it. If you were willing to accept realistic explanations things would go much easier.cods wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:01 pmyou and gweg you mean ...brian ross wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:58 pmUnable to face reality, Serial? How unremarkable. You live in your Trump bunker. The rest of us will live in the outside world.![]()
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oops and hillary you can eat HATE sandwiches to your hearts content.
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brian ross wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:05 amThis place is very much a bunker, full of people who hate it when I or other realists lift up the lid and let in a little daylight, Serial. So, when are you going to even attempt to answer the points I have made, Mmmm? Or are you going to continue onwards on your path of denial, hey? I understand you believe that path is smooth but reality will keep on intruding as long as you hide your eyes from the light.![]()
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Why would I want to preach to them? They accept reality already, Cods. You lot here seem eager to reject it. My job is to enlighten you.cods wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:38 amare you a member of monks fake PA?......they are all lefties over there you would fit in beautifully...brian ross wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:05 amThis place is very much a bunker, full of people who hate it when I or other realists lift up the lid and let in a little daylight, Serial. So, when are you going to even attempt to answer the points I have made, Mmmm? Or are you going to continue onwards on your path of denial, hey? I understand you believe that path is smooth but reality will keep on intruding as long as you hide your eyes from the light.![]()
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Am I? Really? Care to provide some examples?btw you are famous for not answering questions....
don't be ridiculous Brian - you cherry picked a few things out of the new contract of which probably has 2000 pagesbrian ross wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:05 amThis place is very much a bunker, full of people who hate it when I or other realists lift up the lid and let in a little daylight, Serial. So, when are you going to even attempt to answer the points I have made, Mmmm? Or are you going to continue onwards on your path of denial, hey? I understand you believe that path is smooth but reality will keep on intruding as long as you hide your eyes from the light.![]()
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Ah, but they were considered the "major points", Serial. Time you woke up to what a swindler el Presidente' Trump is. Stop being sucked into his bullshit, use your brain.Serial Brain 9 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:38 pmdon't be ridiculous Brian - you cherry picked a few things out of the new contract of which probably has 2000 pagesbrian ross wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:05 amThis place is very much a bunker, full of people who hate it when I or other realists lift up the lid and let in a little daylight, Serial. So, when are you going to even attempt to answer the points I have made, Mmmm? Or are you going to continue onwards on your path of denial, hey? I understand you believe that path is smooth but reality will keep on intruding as long as you hide your eyes from the light.![]()
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All things the American people pay for. Mexicans don't pay anything to the US. Tut, tut, you'll catch on eventually, I suppose - after Trump has swindled you a bit more.the proof will be in the Trade deficits/surplice, jobs, revenue increases etc
The Federal Reserve is trying to manage the US Economy. It has nothing to do with Trump as far as they are concerned. It has everything to do with what the American public are doing and what foreign trade is occurring. Trump seems to think it is aimed directly at him personally. Yeah, bullshit.there are many aspects - here's one - the Federal Reserve keep jacking up interest rates on Trump trying to blow the market up - its costing American's an extra 500 Billion Dollars PA with those increases and they are talking about more increases - which has tanked the markets by over 4000 points
Keep your haIr on ... this is a FORUM and nobody cares what your opinion is.brian ross wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:41 pmAh, but they were considered the "major points", Serial. Time you woke up to what a swindler el Presidente' Trump is. Stop being sucked into his bullshit, use your brain.Serial Brain 9 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:38 pmdon't be ridiculous Brian - you cherry picked a few things out of the new contract of which probably has 2000 pagesbrian ross wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:05 amThis place is very much a bunker, full of people who hate it when I or other realists lift up the lid and let in a little daylight, Serial. So, when are you going to even attempt to answer the points I have made, Mmmm? Or are you going to continue onwards on your path of denial, hey? I understand you believe that path is smooth but reality will keep on intruding as long as you hide your eyes from the light.![]()
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All things the American people pay for. Mexicans don't pay anything to the US. Tut, tut, you'll catch on eventually, I suppose - after Trump has swindled you a bit more.the proof will be in the Trade deficits/surplice, jobs, revenue increases etc
The Federal Reserve is trying to manage the US Economy. It has nothing to do with Trump as far as they are concerned. It has everything to do with what the American public are doing and what foreign trade is occurring. Trump seems to think it is aimed directly at him personally. Yeah, bullshit.there are many aspects - here's one - the Federal Reserve keep jacking up interest rates on Trump trying to blow the market up - its costing American's an extra 500 Billion Dollars PA with those increases and they are talking about more increases - which has tanked the markets by over 4000 points
Really? So, why do you care if I'm wrong, Neferti? Mmmm?Neferti~ wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:44 pmKeep your haIr on ... this is a FORUM and nobody cares what your opinion is.brian ross wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:41 pmAh, but they were considered the "major points", Serial. Time you woke up to what a swindler el Presidente' Trump is. Stop being sucked into his bullshit, use your brain.Serial Brain 9 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:38 pmdon't be ridiculous Brian - you cherry picked a few things out of the new contract of which probably has 2000 pagesbrian ross wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:05 amThis place is very much a bunker, full of people who hate it when I or other realists lift up the lid and let in a little daylight, Serial. So, when are you going to even attempt to answer the points I have made, Mmmm? Or are you going to continue onwards on your path of denial, hey? I understand you believe that path is smooth but reality will keep on intruding as long as you hide your eyes from the light.![]()
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All things the American people pay for. Mexicans don't pay anything to the US. Tut, tut, you'll catch on eventually, I suppose - after Trump has swindled you a bit more.the proof will be in the Trade deficits/surplice, jobs, revenue increases etc
The Federal Reserve is trying to manage the US Economy. It has nothing to do with Trump as far as they are concerned. It has everything to do with what the American public are doing and what foreign trade is occurring. Trump seems to think it is aimed directly at him personally. Yeah, bullshit.there are many aspects - here's one - the Federal Reserve keep jacking up interest rates on Trump trying to blow the market up - its costing American's an extra 500 Billion Dollars PA with those increases and they are talking about more increases - which has tanked the markets by over 4000 points
brian ross wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:55 pmLets examine that a little more closely (and rationally), shall we?Serial Brain 9 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:01 pmMexico is already paying for it after Trump renegotiated a new trade deal saving America Billions of dollarsbrian ross wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:26 pmAmericans are going to be forced to pay for the wall. QED.![]()
NAFTA is no more. Now it is called USMCA.
[Source]Here are the biggest changes:
Country of origin rules: Automobiles must have 75 percent of their components manufactured in Mexico, the US, or Canada to qualify for zero tariffs (up from 62.5 percent under NAFTA).
Labor provisions: 40 to 45 percent of automobile parts have to be made by workers who earn at least $16 an hour by 2023. Mexico has also agreed to pass laws giving workers the right to union representation, extending labor protections to migrant workers, and protecting women from discrimination. The countries can also sanction one another for labor violations.
US farmers get more access to the Canadian dairy market: The US got Canada to open up its dairy market to US farmers, which was a big issue for Trump.
Intellectual property and digital trade: The deal extends the terms of copyright to 70 years beyond the life of the author (up from 50). It also extends the period that a pharmaceutical drug can be protected from generic competition, and includes new provisions to deal with the digital economy, including prohibiting duties on things like music and e-books, and protections for internet companies so they’re not liable for content their users produce.
No section 232 tariff protections: Section 232 is a trade loophole that Trump used to impose steel and aluminum tariffs on Canada, Mexico, and the European Union. Canada and Mexico wanted protections from these tariffs as part of the NAFTA negotiations, and the fact that tariffs are still in place remains a sore subject, particularly for Canada. Canada and Mexico did get the US to make a side agreement that shields them from possible auto tariffs under 232.
Sunset clause: The agreement adds a 16-year “sunset” clause — meaning the terms of the agreement expire, or “sunset,” after a set period of time. The deal is also subject to a review every six years, at which point the US, Mexico, and Canada can decide to extend the USMCA.
So, care to demonstrate how any of those changes are going to make Mexico pay for a wall which America wants to erect? Mmmm? Lets see some substance to your claims that Mexico will pay for a change, rather than just your airy-fairy bullshit. I want to see PROOF that Mexico will pay.
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