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Post Roe v Wade

Post by Jovial Monk » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:44 pm

Already incredible suffering by women has resulted.

Women have been sent home (TX and WI) retaining some fetal tissue after a partial miscarriage. They had to stay home until they were sick enough to have the fetal remains removed. Physical and emotional suffering.

Cases where the water breaks way before the fetus can survive—have to wait for the fetal “heartbeat” to stop.

This “fetal heartbeat” at 6 weeks is bullshit—there is no heart present! It is pure nervous activity yet these fucking backward states use this as the yardstick—no abortion after 6 weeks and most women don’t even know they are pregnant at 6 weeks.

Some extra foulness—snitching laws, encourage some to snitch on neighbors for $10,000 reward. In Texas, women have already had to defend miscarriages.

Some of the more backward states have high maternal death rates, Alabama is over 40 maternal deaths/100000 births. New York is 10 and Australia is 5–8. in 8-9 months, no exemption for the life of the mother (or incest, rape—these Repugs really hate women!) and these rates will skyrocket.

A 10yo in Ohio was raped and was impregnated. Was found out 6weeks + 3 days later, after the BS “fetal heartbeat.” OH governor said the pregnancy was an “opportunity” for the girl. She was whisked to a sympathetic doctor in Indiana and aborted.

Savagery!

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Re: Post Roe v Wade

Post by Jovial Monk » Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:33 pm

FFS there are voices calling for ectopic pregnancies to be allowed to proceed—certain death for fetus and mother-to-be.

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Post by lisa jones » Sat Jul 30, 2022 2:08 pm

A wonderful decision. Left wingers can whinge all they like. It's a wonderful outcome for women and children!

Only a left whinger would see it otherwise.
I would rather die than sell my heart and soul to an online forum Anti Christ like you Monk

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Re: Post Roe v Wade

Post by Jovial Monk » Sat Jul 30, 2022 2:23 pm

Maternal death rates in US states. None as low as Australia:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/maternal-morta ... e-Data.pdf

Now add stupid antiabortion laws—the figures in the most backward states will skyrocket.

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Post by Jovial Monk » Sat Jul 30, 2022 2:25 pm

The story of the 10yo Ohio rapoe victim:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-14/ ... /101230544

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Post by Jovial Monk » Sat Jul 30, 2022 2:26 pm


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Post by Jovial Monk » Sat Jul 30, 2022 2:28 pm

How the Dobbs ruling complicates OB-GYN:
Interview with a Wisconsin OBGYN now performing abortions in Indiana because of a very old law on the WI books:

We tried immensely to do as much coordination as we could before the Dobbs ruling came out, as well as after—working with academic institutions across the state, trying to bring physicians together, lawyers together, to try to help people understand this law is archaic. It’s written before we had common use of ultrasound, before we had a lot of the common-day diagnoses that we have. So trying to interpret that in a modern context is really difficult and it’s really scary. We’re having discussions. We’re trying to help share each other’s knowledge and share our expertise while also realizing that none of us really know exactly what to do because the law is unclear. It was not written by physicians even back in 1849. We’re sort of awaiting guidance while also ensuring that we’re still providing patients with the care that they deserve to the degree that we are able.

Tell me about this partnership and your plans to travel to Illinois to provide abortion care.

So we have been planning internally at Planned Parenthood Wisconsin for months now to try to figure out how we create the best path to care for our patients to get the health care that they deserve. One of the many things that we have been focusing on is to try to figure out how we can also help provide that care for our colleagues that are in these haven states. The closest to us here, being in Milwaukee, is Illinois.


Illinois has fewer restrictions than us at baseline. But especially with our ban in place, we anticipated that they were gonna see a large increase in the number of patients that they were needing to serve. And because abortion is such a time-sensitive procedure, a delay can be catastrophic—it can lead to less options. It even can potentially lead to a patient not being able to access care.

Part of the plan was to try to see if we could actually help out in haven states. There is sort of a two-sided approach. One, we wanted to help them. But two, for many of us—the physicians, the staff—providing abortion care is very core and central to what we believe is right, and part of our job is to provide this care. It was sort of a wonderful marriage of opportunity to not only be able to help Illinois to absorb some of the load, but also to be able to continue providing care for our patients.

“Pro-Life” Idaho Republicans Declare Women Should Be Left to Die to Save Fetuses
BY BESS LEVIN
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/20 ... popular4-1
So we have been planning internally at Planned Parenthood Wisconsin for months now to try to figure out how we create the best path to care for our patients to get the health care that they deserve. One of the many things that we have been focusing on is to try to figure out how we can also help provide that care for our colleagues that are in these haven states. The closest to us here, being in Milwaukee, is Illinois.

Illinois has fewer restrictions than us at baseline. But especially with our ban in place, we anticipated that they were gonna see a large increase in the number of patients that they were needing to serve. And because abortion is such a time-sensitive procedure, a delay can be catastrophic—it can lead to less options. It even can potentially lead to a patient not being able to access care.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/07 ... ortion-ban

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Re: Post Roe v Wade

Post by Jovial Monk » Sat Jul 30, 2022 2:32 pm

Just look at this sentence carefully:
“Pro-Life” Idaho Republicans Declare Women Should Be Left to Die to Save Fetuses
Women

Left

To

Die


Severe fetal abnormalities that would have previously been aborted as non-viable now will present complications, the fetus HAS to be born even IF the mother will die. Too bad about the husband, children, the woman’s parents and siblings etc, all to bring a non-viable fetus into the world.

The Repugs hate women, clearly.

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Post by Jovial Monk » Sat Jul 30, 2022 2:34 pm

Last year, a 35-year-old woman named Amanda, who lives in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, had a miscarriage in the first trimester of her pregnancy. At a large hospital, a doctor performed a surgical procedure often used as a safe and quick method to remove tissue from a failed pregnancy.

She awoke from anesthesia to find a card signed by the nurses and a little pink and blue bracelet with a butterfly charm, a gift from the hospital to express compassion for her loss. “It was so sweet because it’s such a hard thing to go through,” Amanda said.
Eight months later, in January, Amanda, who asked to be identified by her first name to protect her privacy, experienced another first-trimester miscarriage. She said she went to the same hospital, Baylor Scott & White Medical Center, doubled over in pain and screaming as she passed a large blood clot.

But when she requested the same surgical evacuation procedure, called dilation and curettage, or D&C, she said the hospital told her no.

A D&C is the same procedure used for some abortions. In September 2021, in between Amanda’s two miscarriages, Texas implemented a law banning almost all abortions after six weeks into pregnancy.

Following the reversal of Roe v. Wade, numerous states are enacting bans or sharp restrictions on abortion. While the laws are technically intended to apply only to abortions, some patients have reported hurdles receiving standard surgical procedures or medication for the loss of desired pregnancies.

Amanda said the hospital didn’t mention the abortion law, but sent her home with instructions to return only if she was bleeding so excessively that her blood filled a diaper more than once an hour. Hospital records that Amanda shared with The New York Times noted that her embryo had no cardiac activity during that visit and on an ultrasound a week earlier. “She reports having a lot of pain” and “she appears distressed,” the records said.

“This appears to be miscarriage in process,” the records noted, but suggested waiting to confirm and advised a follow-up in seven days.

Once home, Amanda said, she sat on the toilet digging “fingernail marks in my wall” from the pain. She then moved to the bathtub, where her husband held her hand as they both cried. “The bathtub water is just dark red,” Amanda recalled. “For 48 hours, it was like a constant heavy bleed and big clots.”

She added, “It was so different from my first experience where they were so nice and so comforting, to now just feeling alone and terrified.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/17/heal ... tment.html

What scumbags think this is desirable or normal in the 21st century?

Nothing to do with contraception (and Repugs want to take that away as well) this is hatred of women inflicting severe emotional and physical pain on them.

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Re: Post Roe v Wade

Post by Jovial Monk » Sat Jul 30, 2022 2:35 pm

Another case, more pain because Repugs hate women:

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... witter.com

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