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Is Baldwin Responsible?

Post by Black Orchid » Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:38 pm

The man is an aggressive and out of control cretin and irony is a bitch but is he responsible?

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Re: Is Baldwin Responsible?

Post by Nom De Plume » Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:48 pm

Of course not! Whom ever was responsible for the props, is accountable.
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Re: Is Baldwin Responsible?

Post by sprintcyclist » Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:12 pm

legally no. Obviously, no.

From his point of view, emotionally ......... he pulled the trigger.
He will never forget it and will be hard set to forgive himself.
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Re: Is Baldwin Responsible?

Post by sprintcyclist » Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:23 pm

Well, here is the question .........

Did the script say for baldwin to point the gun at that woman?
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Re: Is Baldwin Responsible?

Post by Black Orchid » Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:26 pm

Legally he may not be responsible but how many guns has he handled over his career? Quite a few no doubt. You'd have to be a complete idiot to point a gun at someone and pull the trigger without personally checking it, no matter who cleared it before it was handed to you.

That would be the first rule of handling a gun. Prop gun or otherwise.

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Re: Is Baldwin Responsible?

Post by Black Orchid » Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:28 pm

sprintcyclist wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:23 pm
Well, here is the question .........

Did the script say for baldwin to point the gun at that woman?
Well considering she was a Cinematographer I'd say the answer to that would be a big fat NO!

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Re: Is Baldwin Responsible?

Post by Bobby » Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:19 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:26 pm
Legally he may not be responsible but how many guns has he handled over his career? Quite a few no doubt. You'd have to be a complete idiot to point a gun at someone and pull the trigger without personally checking it, no matter who cleared it before it was handed to you.

That would be the first rule of handling a gun. Prop gun or otherwise.

The actors should all be trained to personally check the guns they will use
to make sure they are loaded with blanks.
Plus there shouldn't have been any real ammunition on that site.
However - you should never point any gun at someone -
yet alone pull the trigger.

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Re: Is Baldwin Responsible?

Post by Mortdooley » Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:25 pm

In a way he is because of his bullying ways and obnoxious behavior, I believe he deliberately pointed the gun at the person he shot. He never believed it was loaded with live ammo, he just wanted to frighten and intimidate his victim. According to him in a report I read, he had never fired a live round before in his life and had no true gun handling training.
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Re: Is Baldwin Responsible?

Post by sprintcyclist » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:13 am

Black Orchid wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:28 pm
sprintcyclist wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:23 pm
Well, here is the question .........

Did the script say for baldwin to point the gun at that woman?
Well considering she was a Cinematographer I'd say the answer to that would be a big fat NO!
that was my thought
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Re: Is Baldwin Responsible?

Post by Gordon » Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:36 pm

Nom De Plume wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:48 pm
Of course not! Whom ever was responsible for the props, is accountable.
Way more to it than that. Baldwin is a producer.

The chief electrician on the low-budget western, Serge Svetnoy, blamed producers for Hutchins's death in a Facebook post, saying he noted "negligence and unprofessionalism" among those handling weapons on the set and said producers hired an inexperienced armourer.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-25/ ... /100565066

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