Paleo-Medi Diet the best

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I love the idea of ice fishing, then sitting around a camp fire and cooking rustic food the way our ancestors managed to without a kitchen Aid of sorts. Lol.... kids don't have a clue where their food even comes from half the time.

and stories to tell

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rustic food the way our ancestors managed to without a kitchen Aid of sorts. Lol....

[mellie]

Given our ancestral roots, Vikings lol....this may in fact been exactly what they ate.

At least it's fresh!!!

Unlike the filth in restaurants these days due to government cut-backs on spot-check spending.

People have to die before the department of health investigate these days.

It's been like this since covid.

[Jasin]

If you read Noah Harari's book on Sapiens.
It says that the Hunter/Gatherer diet was superior (and more varied) and time/labour efficient than that of the Farming cultures which developed in the on region (Middle-East) where food was the most hard to come by. Little wonder if developed into the Region where 'warfare' truly emerged, as the need to raid other people's harvests, especially if one's own harvests failed, pushed the Hunting & Gathering up a level against humans themselves. The rest is history.

[mellie]

If you read Noah Harari's book on Sapiens.
It says that the Hunter/Gatherer diet was superior (and more varied) and time/labour efficient than that of the Farming cultures which developed in the on region (Middle-East) where food was the most hard to come by. Little wonder if developed into the Region where 'warfare' truly emerged, as the need to raid other people's harvests, especially if one's own harvests failed, pushed the Hunting & Gathering up a level against humans themselves. The rest is history.

No the rest could be our future too, I think everyone should have a basic kitchen garden stocked with basics, like tomatoes, herbs, leafy greens, salad greens, and whatever is expensive in the stores. If we all did this, and only ate seasonal produce, supermarket prices would drop and we'd be richer and healthier for it.

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If you read Noah Harari's book on Sapiens.
It says that the Hunter/Gatherer diet was superior (and more varied) and time/labour efficient than that of the Farming cultures which developed in the on region (Middle-East) where food was the most hard to come by. Little wonder if developed into the Region where 'warfare' truly emerged, as the need to raid other people's harvests, especially if one's own harvests failed, pushed the Hunting & Gathering up a level against humans themselves. The rest is history.

The coalescent-based analysis revealed strong evidence for distinct demographic expansions in Europe, southeastern Asia, and sub-Saharan Africa within the past 10,000 y. Estimates of the timing of population growth based on genetic data correspond neatly to dates for the initial origins of agriculture derived from archaeological evidence. Comparisons of rates of population growth through time reveal that the invention of agriculture facilitated a fivefold increase in population growth relative to more ancient expansions of hunter-gatherers.

So "'warfare' truly emerged" because of demographic explosion rather then diet change.

BTW,
Hunter-gatherers first launched violent raids at least 13,400 years ago

Skeletons of adults, teens and children excavated in the 1960s at an ancient cemetery in Sudan known as Jebel Sahaba display injuries incurred in repeated skirmishes, raids or ambushes, say paleoanthropologist Isabelle Crevecoeur and her colleagues. The site, which dates to between 13,400 and 18,600 years ago, provides the oldest known evidence of regular, small-scale conflicts among human groups, says Crevecoeur, of the University of Bordeaux in France.

[Jasin]

Yep. Things were more desperate in that arid and sparser region of the Middle-East.
Papuans used canal farming 9,000 years ago. But in a rich providing ecosystem of PNG, the need wasn't a priority.
Human turned on Human in the Middle-East. The Hunter was replaced by the Warrior, the Gatherer by the Farmer.

[mellie]

Yep. Things were more desperate in that arid and sparser region of the Middle-East.
Papuans used canal farming 9,000 years ago. But in a rich providing ecosystem of PNG, the need wasn't a priority.
Human turned on Human in the Middle-East. The Hunter was replaced by the Warrior, the Gatherer by the Farmer.

I've often wondered what my grandfather nourished himself with during the war. He went to PNG. He spoke very highly of what he called the fuzzy wuzzys and I imagine they helped our soldiers by bringing or sharing tips on how to find food in the PNG wild.

He said if it wasn't for the fuzzy wuzzys, most of our blokes wouldn't have returned from where they were.

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Yep. Things were more desperate in that arid and sparser region of the Middle-East.
Papuans used canal farming 9,000 years ago. But in a rich providing ecosystem of PNG, the need wasn't a priority.
Human turned on Human in the Middle-East. The Hunter was replaced by the Warrior, the Gatherer by the Farmer.

Cannibalism was in effect demographic control in Micronesia.
When working in PNG I used to live with natives in jungle near Tsilitsili and they show me big rock where their grand parents used to cook humans and I am sure they were salivating just looking at me. I told them that I have such a decease that would wipe out the whole tribe if I was eaten.

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Yes the Papuans were great in their support of Australian soldiers, but alas they were still treated with a bit of inequality and 'class' snobbery, which is a bit rich coming from Australians. I've seen quite a few programs with Papuans feeling a bit used and abused from Australians. But the majority of interaction was positive and that's what counts.

Melanesian were pretty rife with cannibalism. Probably scared off the Taiwanese-come-Polynesian colonisations. Lol. They cooked 198 out of 200 Chinese boat people in the Solomons.
The surviving two were apparently too scrawny to bother. Lol