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Baronvonrort
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Danger of mass vaccinations in pandemic

Post by Baronvonrort » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:27 pm

The big problem we have is the vaccines are non sterilising they don't kill this virus they only train your immune system to fight it.

Vaccinated people get infected they carry this virus and transmit it while asymptomatic they cause virus to evolve to escape induced immune response. This virus can replicate in your body in 10-12 hours so vaccinated people are perfect hosts for virus to evolve.

Geert Vanden Bossche has written and spoken about this he has an impressive resume.
Geert Vanden Bossche (DVM, PhD)

Geert Vanden Bossche received his DVM from the University of Ghent, Belgium, and his PhD degree in Virology from the University of Hohenheim, Germany. He held adjunct faculty appointments at universities in Belgium and Germany. After his career in Academia, Geert joined several vaccine companies (GSK Biologicals, Novartis Vaccines, Solvay Biologicals) to serve various roles in vaccine R&D as well as in late vaccine development. Geert then moved on to join the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation’s Global Health Discovery team in Seattle (USA) as Senior Program Officer; he then worked with the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization (GAVI) in Geneva as Senior Ebola Program Manager. At GAVI he tracked efforts to develop an Ebola vaccine. He also represented GAVI in fora with other partners, including WHO, to review progress on the fight against Ebola and to build plans for global pandemic preparedness. Back in 2015, Geert scrutinized and questioned the safety of the Ebola vaccine that was used in ring vaccination trials conducted by WHO in Guinea. His critical scientific analysis and report on the data published by WHO in the Lancet in 2015 was sent to all international health and regulatory authorities involved in the Ebola vaccination program. After working for GAVI, Geert joined the German Center for Infection Research in Cologne as Head of the Vaccine Development Office. He is at present primarily serving as a Biotech/ Vaccine consultant while also conducting his own research on Natural Killer cell-based vaccines.

https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/
Some will dismiss Geert call him crazy etc yet those who do don't have anywhere near the experience he has with virology and vaccines. Geert is not anti vax he spent his life working with vaccines he is against using the current vaccines we have for covid.

Alfred Wegener came up with Continental drift about 100 years ago everyone thought he was nuts about 55 years ago they realised he was right and pulped every Geology textbook to include Plate Tectonics and Continental drift. With Science all it takes is one person to prove current thinking is wrong and old ideas are rejected for the truth. If it's wrong science rejects it for this reason i cannot dismiss Geert as many things he said would happen have happened.

Interesting paper from Dr Raszek explaining the dangers of mass vaccination Geert has spoken about into something most should be able to understand. https://merogenomics.ca/blog/en/140/Imm ... -explained

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Re: Danger of mass vaccinations in pandemic

Post by Baronvonrort » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:33 pm

Dr Maertenson interviews Geert here.


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Re: Danger of mass vaccinations in pandemic

Post by Bobby » Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:09 am

Baronvonrort wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:27 pm
The big problem we have is the vaccines are non sterilising they don't kill this virus they only train your immune system to fight it.

Vaccinated people get infected they carry this virus and transmit it while asymptomatic they cause virus to evolve to escape induced immune response. This virus can replicate in your body in 10-12 hours so vaccinated people are perfect hosts for virus to evolve.

I think vaccines ALL are like that -
they don't stop you getting the virus -
they train your body to fight the virus.

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Re: Danger of mass vaccinations in pandemic

Post by sprintcyclist » Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:11 pm

Bobby wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:09 am
Baronvonrort wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:27 pm
The big problem we have is the vaccines are non sterilising they don't kill this virus they only train your immune system to fight it.

Vaccinated people get infected they carry this virus and transmit it while asymptomatic they cause virus to evolve to escape induced immune response. This virus can replicate in your body in 10-12 hours so vaccinated people are perfect hosts for virus to evolve.

I think vaccines ALL are like that -
they don't stop you getting the virus -
they train your body to fight the virus.
that is my understanding
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Re: Danger of mass vaccinations in pandemic

Post by Baronvonrort » Thu Oct 21, 2021 10:38 pm

sprintcyclist wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:11 pm
Bobby wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:09 am
Baronvonrort wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:27 pm
The big problem we have is the vaccines are non sterilising they don't kill this virus they only train your immune system to fight it.

Vaccinated people get infected they carry this virus and transmit it while asymptomatic they cause virus to evolve to escape induced immune response. This virus can replicate in your body in 10-12 hours so vaccinated people are perfect hosts for virus to evolve.

I think vaccines ALL are like that -
they don't stop you getting the virus -
they train your body to fight the virus.
that is my understanding
The measles vaccine is a sterlising vaccine which means those who have it cannot transmit it to others. These covid vaccines are non sterilising which means they can pass it on to others when they get infected.

There are quite a few people who think it's wrong to use a non sterilising vaccine in a pandemic which is a worldwide problem. It gives the virus a perfect host where it can replicate evolve and be transmitted to others.

Interesting how things have changed since June with video i posted with Dr Martenson. We have the CDC and others confirming Delta viral loads are no different with infected people regardless of vaccination status and vaccine efficacy is much lower.The increase in cases with large vaccinated populations like the UK are a worry.

The predictions Geert Vanden Bossche made are coming true.

We now have a Delta plus variant in the UK with evolution it's survival of the fittest this Delta plus is already around 10% of infections.

Lots of evolution with this virus keep in mind vaccine was created for Alpha variant.
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Re: Danger of mass vaccinations in pandemic

Post by Baronvonrort » Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:25 pm

Mass vaccination during pandemic historical blunder: Nobel laureate

French virologist and Nobel Prize winner Luc Montagnier called mass vaccination against the coronavirus during the pandemic “unthinkable” and a historical blunder that is “creating the variants” and leading to deaths from the disease, LifeSite News reported.

”Its an enormous mistake, isn’t it? A scientific error as well as a medical error. It is an unacceptable mistake,” Montagnier said in an interview translated and published by the RAIR Foundation US.

The history books will show that, because it is the vaccination that is creating the variants,” the report said. Many epidemiologists know it and are “silent” about the problem known as “antibody-dependent enhancement,” Montagnier said.

It is the antibodies produced by the virus that enable an infection to become stronger,” he said in an interview with Pierre Barnerias of Hold-Up Media earlier this month.

While variants of viruses can occur naturally, Montagnier said that vaccination is driving the process. “What does the virus do? Does it die or find another solution? “It is clear that the new variants are created by antibody-mediated selection due to the vaccination.”

Vaccinating during a pandemic is “unthinkable” and is causing deaths, the winner of the 2008 Nobel Prize for Medicine said

The new variants are a production and result from the vaccination. You see it in each country, it’s the same: in every country deaths follow vaccination,” he said, as per the report.

https://telanganatoday.com/mass-vaccina ... l-laureate

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Re: Danger of mass vaccinations in pandemic

Post by Bobby » Thu Oct 28, 2021 6:47 pm

Hi Baron,
I don't think there was a choice -
we took what we could get.
25 lives lost in Melbourne yesterday.

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Re: Danger of mass vaccinations in pandemic

Post by sprintcyclist » Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:18 pm

Bobby wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 6:47 pm
Hi Baron,
I don't think there was a choice -
we took what we could get.
25 lives lost in Melbourne yesterday.
Yes, good idea.
Viruses always mutate
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Re: Danger of mass vaccinations in pandemic

Post by Black Orchid » Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:15 pm

According to ScoMo 80% of all Australians over the age of 16 have now been double jabbed and they have given out 35 million jabs total. That just doesn't seem to add up.

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Re: Danger of mass vaccinations in pandemic

Post by sprintcyclist » Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:54 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:15 pm
According to ScoMo 80% of all Australians over the age of 16 have now been double jabbed and they have given out 35 million jabs total. That just doesn't seem to add up.
........... 89.2% of people over the age of 16 have had at least one dose ...............

............ 80.2% of people over the age of 16 are fully vaccinated ...........
https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default ... r-2021.pdf
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