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Re: Climate Change

Post by brian ross » Sat Nov 16, 2019 4:00 pm

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Re: Climate Change

Post by brian ross » Sat Nov 16, 2019 4:05 pm

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Re: Climate Change

Post by Bogan » Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:57 pm

You must be right, Briney, Australia has never experienced bushfires before.

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Re: Climate Change

Post by Bogan » Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:08 pm

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Re: Climate Change

Post by Nom De Plume » Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:17 pm

Seems to me that we are all in agreement that the climate is changing, and merely disputing the cause.
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Re: Climate Change

Post by Bogan » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:33 pm

Of course the climate is changing. The climate has always changed. The history of humans on Earth for the last 2000 years can easily be understood because of climate change. When the Roman Warm Period ended, it started getting a lot colder. Scandinavia and the Steppes of Russia became almost uninhabitable. Switzerland became almost uninhabitable and the Helvetians asked the Romans if they could cross Roman land to get to somewhere warmer, but the Romans refused them permission to pass. The cooling of the earth began the great migrations of other peoples like the Huns, the Alans, the Visigoths, and the Vandals from the steppes of Russia and Mongolia south west into Roman and Byzantine Europe. It was the beginning of the Vikings fleeing Norway, Sweden, and Denmark into the warmer southern lands of Britain, France and Spain. This was called the Medieval Cooling Period.

Then climate warmed again which was known as the Medieval Warming Period, when Vikings created settlements in Greenland, where they grew crops and raised cattle. Throughout Europe, which had been on the verge of continent wide starvation, crops began to grow again. The Black Death receded as people in Europe became more healthy and populations scattered to take advantage of once again fertile crop growing areas.

Then came the Little Ice Age where for only a couple of hundred years, temperatures plummeted alarmingly. It got very cold. The Viking settlements on Greenland were wiped out. The Thames froze over, crops failed, entire populations went hungry and the Europeans were once again under immense stress.

Then the climate warmed again, and we are now in this warming period. The climate of earth warms and cools every 1000 years. Every 10,000 years we go into a minor Ice Age. Every 100,000 years, a major Ice Age.

Our present warming period is the tenth in this present 10,000 year cycle, and it is right on schedule. It differs from the previous 9 for two reasons. If the past is any guide, it still has 2 degrees to go before it will get colder again, and it coincided with the industrialisation of the human race.

The concept that taxes should rise to prevent global warming is real King Canute stuff. We might as well pay people to whip the ocean with whips to stop the tide coming in.

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Re: Climate Change

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Re: Climate Change

Post by Neferti » Wed Nov 20, 2019 4:28 pm

The climate has changed here today in Canberra, currently 31C and getting hotter tomorrow, according to BOM. It isn't even Summer yet! :mrgreen:

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Re: Climate Change

Post by Redneck » Wed Nov 20, 2019 4:55 pm

Bogan wrote:
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Good One !!

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Re: Climate Change

Post by Bobby » Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:50 pm

Neferti~ wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 4:28 pm
The climate has changed here today in Canberra, currently 31C and getting hotter tomorrow, according to BOM. It isn't even Summer yet! :mrgreen:

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