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Re: Global Warming

Post by IQS.RLOW » Sat May 25, 2013 1:49 pm

Network costs= numpties putting solar panels on rooftops making others pay for a useless measure.

Another leftwing fucking idiot idea :roll:
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Re: Global Warming

Post by Rorschach » Sat May 25, 2013 3:07 pm

Not only do they get rebates for their panels paid for by us they get a ridiculous tariff for power they send to the grid.

I wouldn't have minded if they just got the going price, but I don't see why we have to pay extra for it.
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Re: Global Warming

Post by Rorschach » Tue May 28, 2013 12:15 pm

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn1 ... earth.html

Ice Ages... naturally occurring events due primarily to our orbit, that will continue to happen no matter what we do. Let's hope the means of adaptation/survival is available when the next one occurs.
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Re: Global Warming

Post by mantra » Tue May 28, 2013 12:44 pm

Rorschach wrote:Not only do they get rebates for their panels paid for by us they get a ridiculous tariff for power they send to the grid.

I wouldn't have minded if they just got the going price, but I don't see why we have to pay extra for it.
I agree with you on that one - but that was the deal at the time to ensure plenty of people signed up for it.

If Abbott does nothing about global warming - although in the short term, some people might be relieved the carbon tax is repealed, it will come back to bite him. The average person doesn't want to be inactive in regard to global warming whether you believe it's real or not.

SA is doing extremely well in regard to solar panels. It's a pity NSW couldn't follow their lead. More solar means less coal being burned. In SA they don't even need to supply extra fossil fuel for the peak periods, which the rest of the states do.
Solar energy is increasingly becoming an important and reliable source of clean, renewable energy for homes and businesses in South Australia.

To increase the uptake of small to medium solar installations in the state the South Australian government is:

supporting homes and businesses to install solar hot water systems and photovoltaic (PV) panels through rebates and the solar feed-in scheme
investing in major solar energy projects across the state and attracting investment in solar energy from the private sector.

South Australia was the first state in Australia to introduce a solar feed-in scheme, and currently has more than 120,000 installed solar systems on homes and businesses.

Since December 2009, it has been South Australian government policy that all government-owned buildings constructed or substantially refurbished after July 2010 have solar systems installed. Government-owned residential buildings are required to have a minimum 1.5kW solar system and all other government-owned buildings are to have a minimum 5kW solar system.

This policy builds on installations of large solar systems on ‘iconic’ government buildings in the early and mid-2000s, including:

State Library of South Australia
Art Gallery of South Australia
Parliament House
South Australian Museum.

The South Australian government’s commitment to solar power is consistent with a range of actions the government is taking to move South Australia towards greater uptake of renewable energy and is contributing to meeting South Australia’s 33% renewable energy target by 2020.

In addition to the South Australian government's commitment to solar power, the Australian government has funded a number of solar projects in South Australia through its Solar Cities program. For more information on these installations see Adelaide Solar City's key solar projects Open in new window.

http://www.sa.gov.au/subject/Water,+ene ... +Australia

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Re: Global Warming

Post by Rorschach » Tue May 28, 2013 12:57 pm

Concensus? What Concensus?
Remembering AGW stands for anthropogenic global warming, or global warming caused by humans, take a minute to let that sink in. This study done by John Cook and others, praised by the President of the United States, found more scientific publications whose abstracts reject global warming than say humans are primarily to blame for it.

The “consensus” they’re promoting says it is more likely humans have a negligible impact on the planet’s warming than a large one.
http://rankexploits.com/musings/2013/on-the-consensus/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Global Warming

Post by Rorschach » Tue May 28, 2013 1:00 pm

Alarmists BEST results does not support AGW theory.
BEST Temperature Record Proves Solar Activity Changes Better Explain Global Warming Than CO2

The UN's IPCC and its coterie of green-sharia "scientists" have long pursued a political agenda that requires all climate change and global warming to be a result of human CO2 emissions, and in addition, any solar impact on temperatures is absolutely minimal - yet, the empirical evidence does not support said political agenda, including the BEST maximum temperature dataset
http://www.c3headlines.com/climate-chan ... o2-causes/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Global Warming

Post by Rorschach » Tue May 28, 2013 1:48 pm

Hey buddy? What's that you're attaching to my exhaust pipe?
Oh nothing... just a weather station temperature gauge.
Conclusions: A large-scale NOAA experiment has proven that global warming skeptics were correct: temperature warming in the U.S. has been significantly overstated in recent decades. This NOAA experiment should be expanded to other continents and countries since it is now obvious that the combined older technology and substandard weather station sites have well overstated the global warming phenomenon. Before any further dollars are spent on climate change adaptation and/or mitigation, the world needs to upgrade their global weather/climate reporting network to the USCRN standard so that policymakers have correct temperature change mesurements to base their decisions on.
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Re: Global Warming

Post by Rorschach » Tue May 28, 2013 1:58 pm

Sorry Sherriff, looks like we hung the wrong gas....
Shocker: The Hansen/GISS team paper that says: “we argue that rapid warming in recent decades has been driven mainly by non-CO2 greenhouse gases”
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/06/03/s ... use-gases/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Global Warming

Post by Jovial_Monk » Tue May 28, 2013 6:04 pm

I have a feeling Tone will do a fiddle and the Carbon Price becomes an ETS or he pretends it is now Direct Action—he can’t forego the revenue, not with their shonky costings and savings—still the same as in 2010!

Even if the Carbon Price IS rescinded—power prices won’t go down.

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Re: Global Warming

Post by Super Nova » Thu May 30, 2013 1:27 am

Here is one for the deniers.

This guy is wishing washy. Starts with "may not be responsible" and end with "The strong probability is that it is man-made causes contributing to greenhouse gas concentrations"

Get off the fence.
Tim Yeo: humans may not be to blame for global warming
Humans may not be responsible for global warming, according to Tim Yeo, the MP who oversees government policy on climate change.

The chairman of the Commons Energy and Climate Change committee said he accepts the earth’s temperature is increasing but said “natural phases” may be to blame.

Such a suggestion sits at odds with the scientific consensus. One recent survey of 12,000 academic papers on climate change found 97 per cent agree human activities are causing the planet to warm.

Mr Yeo, an environment minister under John Major, is one of the Conservative Party’s strongest advocates of radical action to cut carbon emissions. His comments are significant as he was one of the first senior figures to urge the party to take the issue of environmental change seriously.

He insisted such action is “prudent” given the threat climate change poses to living standards worldwide. But, he said, human action is merely a “possible cause”.

Asked on Tuesday night whether it was better to take action to mitigate the effects of climate change than to prevent it in the first place, he said: “The first thing to say is it does not represent any threat to the survival of the planet. None at all. The planet has survived much bigger changes than any climate change that is happening now.

He went on: “Although I think the evidence that the climate is changing is now overwhelming, the causes are not absolutely clear. There could be natural causes, natural phases that are taking place.”

“But there is at least a risk that the increased concentration of greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere is a possible cause. We’ve just gone through the 400 parts per million [a measure of the atmospheric concentration of CO2] this year. I think a prudent policy would say if we can do things about that which are no-regrets polices like being efficient in the use of energy, looking at none-fossil fuel sources, I think that’s prudent to do so."

Mr Yeo has previously spoken with great certainty about the science of climate change. He said in 2009: "A significant number of core Conservative voters – mostly among older people – are reluctant to accept the evidence. I don’t think they [doubting Tory MPs] will be a significant influence in the next parliament and will gradually diminish in the population.

"The dying gasps of the deniers will be put to bed. In five years time, no one will argue about a man-made contribution to climate change.”

Mr Yeo, who was speaking to an audience of energy industry representatives and diplomats at the Westminster Russia Forum, renewed his call for the Government to build a third runway at Heathrow. He said waiting for Sir Howard Davies’ report on aviation capacity which is due after the next election was a “ludicrous response to a clear national need.”

He said without better air links to east Asia, Europe risks becoming a “sort of third world backwater quite quickly.”

Asked about the comments this afternoon, Mr Yeo said: "It is possible there are natural causes as well, but my view has always been that – for twenty years – I have thought the scientific evidence has been very convincing. The strong probability is that it is man-made causes contributing to greenhouse gas concentrations."
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