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- boxy
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Re: Global Warming
NASA says that CO2 and NO in the upper atmosphere reflect back energy from solar flares, which is in no way inconsistent with the fact that CO2 in the lower atmosphere reflects heat that is already here back to earth.
Simple stuff, Mr 127 IQ.
Simple stuff, Mr 127 IQ.
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Re: Global Warming
I stand corrected. "The result was an overall cooling effect"
Interesting how they get a 5% heat increase and all gets colder supposedly.
Carbon dioxide reflects heat in all directions, including up and down. Reflecting 95% up sends 5% down. Noticed the author used the word overall not climate or earth atmosphere.
Overall its a cooling effect because the earths Carbon is trapping in more heat, interesting!
Interesting how they get a 5% heat increase and all gets colder supposedly.
Carbon dioxide reflects heat in all directions, including up and down. Reflecting 95% up sends 5% down. Noticed the author used the word overall not climate or earth atmosphere.
Overall its a cooling effect because the earths Carbon is trapping in more heat, interesting!
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Re: Global Warming
Now that is fucking funny.boxy wrote:NASA says that CO2 and NO in the upper atmosphere reflect back energy from solar flares, which is in no way inconsistent with the fact that CO2 in the lower atmosphere reflects heat that is already here back to earth.
Simple stuff, Mr 127 IQ.
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Re: Global Warming
This whole section of the report is biased bullshit. I had a look at the NASA site and it does not lead to these conclusions.(NaturalNews) Practically everything you have been told by the mainstream scientific community and the media about the alleged detriments of greenhouse gases, and particularly carbon dioxide, appears to be false, according to new data compiled by NASA's Langley Research Center. As it turns out, all those atmospheric greenhouse gases that Al Gore and all the other global warming hoaxers have long claimed are overheating and destroying our planet are actually cooling it, based on the latest evidence.
As reported by Principia Scientific International (PSI), Martin Mlynczak and his colleagues over at NASA tracked infrared emissions from the earth's upper atmosphere during and following a recent solar storm that took place between March 8-10. What they found was that the vast majority of energy released from the sun during this immense coronal mass ejection (CME) was reflected back up into space rather than deposited into earth's lower atmosphere.
The result was an overall cooling effect that completely contradicts claims made by NASA's own climatology division that greenhouse gases are a cause of global warming. As illustrated by data collected using Sounding of the Atmosphere using Broadband Emission Radiometry (SABER), both carbon dioxide (CO2) and nitric oxide (NO), which are abundant in the earth's upper atmosphere, greenhouse gases reflect heating energy rather than absorb it.
How the upper atmosphere deals with energy coming in is not the same as how the lower atmosphere and the levels above keep energy in.

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Re: Global Warming
The Sydney Morning Herald .
Debunking the persistent myth that global warming stopped in 1998
DateSeptember 27, 2013
The latest climate change report is the most scrutinised document in the history of science, according to one expert who helped write it.
The latest climate change denial claim ahead of the release of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change assessment report is that global warming stopped in 1998. A slowing in the observed rate of global warming has prompted dubious suggestions that temperatures have not increased significantly in the past 15 years.
It's true that after rising rapidly in the 1990s, global average temperature increases at the earth's surface have slowed since 1998. But warming hasn't stopped.
The past decade was the hottest on record globally. Each year from 2000 to 2010, except 2008, was in the 10 warmest recorded globally.
Global surface air temperature.
Global surface air temperature. Photo: Matthew Absalom-Wong
What's most concerning is that it should be considerably cooler than average, not hotter. Since 1997, several natural climate factors have aligned that should have produced a discernible cooling effect on global temperatures.
A lull in solar activity from 2005 to 2010, combined with two very strong La Niña episodes from 2010 to 2012, would be expected to produce a strong decrease in global temperatures.
Yet the world hasn't cooled. On the contrary, global surface temperatures are moving in the opposite direction to natural climate variations, due to greenhouse gas warming.
To understand recent changes in the rate of heating, we need to look beyond surface temperatures. Warming at the earth's surface is a narrow measure of climatic change, with only a fraction of greenhouse gas warming heating the two meters above the ground encompassed by surface thermometers.
Ocean heat content provides a more comprehensive measure of global warming, because the oceans are vast heat reservoirs. The oceans absorb about 93 per cent of the additional heat trapped in the atmosphere by greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide.
Recent studies show that natural cooling in the Pacific Ocean has counteracted some of the warming effect of greenhouse gases as heat is pumped down into the deep ocean.
Changes in the Pacific Decadal Oscillation can help explain the slowing of warming at the surface. This is a natural ocean cycle that plays out over decades and has been in a cooling phase since 1998.
There have been several similar decades in the recent past when the rate of surface warming slowed. But after each of these ended, there was a marked ramp up in heating at the surface.
Greenhouse gas warming certainly won't be linear, with the same increase in heat recorded in each successive decade. But the overall trend is clear – global warming hasn't paused and the climate system continues to warm.
Dr Sophie Lewis is a research fellow in climate science, based the University of Melbourne and the ARC Centre of Excellence for Climate System Science. She is visiting The Age as part of a scientist-in-residence program organised by the Australian Science Media Centre.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/environment/clima ... z2tDbiJNjd" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Debunking the persistent myth that global warming stopped in 1998
DateSeptember 27, 2013
The latest climate change report is the most scrutinised document in the history of science, according to one expert who helped write it.
The latest climate change denial claim ahead of the release of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change assessment report is that global warming stopped in 1998. A slowing in the observed rate of global warming has prompted dubious suggestions that temperatures have not increased significantly in the past 15 years.
It's true that after rising rapidly in the 1990s, global average temperature increases at the earth's surface have slowed since 1998. But warming hasn't stopped.
The past decade was the hottest on record globally. Each year from 2000 to 2010, except 2008, was in the 10 warmest recorded globally.
Global surface air temperature.
Global surface air temperature. Photo: Matthew Absalom-Wong
What's most concerning is that it should be considerably cooler than average, not hotter. Since 1997, several natural climate factors have aligned that should have produced a discernible cooling effect on global temperatures.
A lull in solar activity from 2005 to 2010, combined with two very strong La Niña episodes from 2010 to 2012, would be expected to produce a strong decrease in global temperatures.
Yet the world hasn't cooled. On the contrary, global surface temperatures are moving in the opposite direction to natural climate variations, due to greenhouse gas warming.
To understand recent changes in the rate of heating, we need to look beyond surface temperatures. Warming at the earth's surface is a narrow measure of climatic change, with only a fraction of greenhouse gas warming heating the two meters above the ground encompassed by surface thermometers.
Ocean heat content provides a more comprehensive measure of global warming, because the oceans are vast heat reservoirs. The oceans absorb about 93 per cent of the additional heat trapped in the atmosphere by greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide.
Recent studies show that natural cooling in the Pacific Ocean has counteracted some of the warming effect of greenhouse gases as heat is pumped down into the deep ocean.
Changes in the Pacific Decadal Oscillation can help explain the slowing of warming at the surface. This is a natural ocean cycle that plays out over decades and has been in a cooling phase since 1998.
There have been several similar decades in the recent past when the rate of surface warming slowed. But after each of these ended, there was a marked ramp up in heating at the surface.
Greenhouse gas warming certainly won't be linear, with the same increase in heat recorded in each successive decade. But the overall trend is clear – global warming hasn't paused and the climate system continues to warm.
Dr Sophie Lewis is a research fellow in climate science, based the University of Melbourne and the ARC Centre of Excellence for Climate System Science. She is visiting The Age as part of a scientist-in-residence program organised by the Australian Science Media Centre.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/environment/clima ... z2tDbiJNjd" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Global Warming
That's a summary of the draft IPPC report I posted a link to.
While things are not gong to heat up on the surface in the short term as they have previously predicted, the heat is building up, weather will change and if we don't do anything about it, a 100 years or so from now will be getting pretty bloody bad.
This time, we should take the report seriously and plan to mitigate the risks through action.
It is a pity the last report was so wrong in the short term. That's what you get when you try to model short term effects in a chaos system. They have learned, they have analysis feedback loops, improved models, utilised improved computing power... they have improved. It will never be perfect. It is a model. (or a set of them as outlined in the report)

While things are not gong to heat up on the surface in the short term as they have previously predicted, the heat is building up, weather will change and if we don't do anything about it, a 100 years or so from now will be getting pretty bloody bad.
This time, we should take the report seriously and plan to mitigate the risks through action.
It is a pity the last report was so wrong in the short term. That's what you get when you try to model short term effects in a chaos system. They have learned, they have analysis feedback loops, improved models, utilised improved computing power... they have improved. It will never be perfect. It is a model. (or a set of them as outlined in the report)

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Re: Global Warming
UK Floods...
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/02/13/u ... ore-103107
Climate claim fails...
http://wattsupwiththat.com/climate-fail-files/
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/02/13/u ... ore-103107
Climate claim fails...
http://wattsupwiththat.com/climate-fail-files/
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Re: Global Warming
Interesting, if Carbon build up is reflecting more of the suns rays back into space, and less of the suns rays are getting to earth, then its a good possibility the earth is cooling, Though this may be initially slow as the Carbon acts as a blanket wrapped around the earth and the more Carbon the thicker and warmer that blanket gets!
Re: Global Warming
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