Global Warming

[DaS Energy]

Today was colder than yesterday too! Carbon is a blanket that keeps the earths heat in and the suns heat out. Use to be earths heat got out and suns heat got in!. Reality is always a problem for the Col-ition and their need to burn Australia!

[DaS Energy]

" that are hell bent on destroying this nation and the youngsters
growing up in it."

You left out Greg Hunt and his Coal-ition, they all tired old parties of the past not the candidates of the now!

[DaS Energy]

That only leaves the Coal-ition and its on the record LIAR Greg Hunt. A liar is a liar and Gillard was dealt with by Abbott who strokes Hunts balls and whispers in his ear, don't get caught lying again, your lies reflect on me!

[Super Nova]

"After 15 years in the top committee I had to leave as Greenpeace took a sharp turn to the political left, and began to adopt policies that I could not accept from my scientific perspective," he said. "Climate change was not an issue when I abandoned Greenpeace, but it certainly is now."

It is getting harder and harder to remain true to my religion.

Link to a source to IQs post:
http://www.independent.co.uk/environmen ... 59627.html

[Rorschach]

Still waiting for some form of actual refutation...

[IQS.RLOW]

SN is madly clicking his heels together with his eyes tightly closed saying "I want to believe, I want to believe" and hoping to all hope that when he opens his eyes the planet is on a self destruct course and humans are to blame.

There was a time when this sort of behaviour was relegated to small towns, in barnyards somewhere in the Bible Belt or is Waco Texas.

[boxy]

Still waiting for some form of actual refutation...

Didn't we do him months ago? Do we need to respond every time you bring up old, discredited, news?

[Rorschach]

Was commenting on SN's response to IQs post Poxy... perhaps you'd like to actually try your hand at an appropriate response... no?

[Super Nova]

SN is madly clicking his heels together with his eyes tightly closed saying "I want to believe, I want to believe" and hoping to all hope that when he opens his eyes the planet is on a self destruct course and humans are to blame.

There was a time when this sort of behaviour was relegated to small towns, in barnyards somewhere in the Bible Belt or is Waco Texas.

My new religion is Jewish, they seem to understand what the fuck is going on.

Why Climate Change Denial Is Biggest Conservative Lie of All

Read more: http://forward.com/articles/192413/why- ... z2uqgYqUhC

Are conservatives ever right?

They were wrong about slavery, wrong about women’s suffrage, wrong about segregation, wrong about gay rights. They were wrong about trickle down economics – it’s never worked and never will, as the ballooning wealth gap proves once again. They were wrong about Iraq (where are those WMD’s, anyway?) and wrong about Vietnam before it. They’re even wrong about evolution (in which only 43% of Republicans believe).

But no error, no misguided application of ideology, no deception is more damaging than the web of lies that conservatives have spun about climate change.

According to a recent study by Yale University, only 32% of Americans believe that global warming is happening, and that human beings are responsible for it. This despite a complete – that’s right, complete – consensus on that point on the part of scientists not working for the fossil fuel industry. As with evolution, there is a unanimous consensus among independent scientific experts, with uncertainties limited to size and scope.

Indeed, the distance between informed and ignorant is widening. Only a year prior, the Pew Research Center found that 45% of Americans “believed” – why is this a belief? – that humans are causing climate change.

Why the gap? As described in exhaustive detail in Naomi Oreskes’ and Eric Conway’s Merchants of Doubt, Chris Mooney’s The Republican War on Science, James Hoggan and Richard Littlemore’s Climate Cover-Up, and a shelf full of books that only liberals read, billions of dollars have been spent by the fossil fuel industry, and fossil fuel industrialists like the Koch Brothers, to cast doubt on the reality of anthrogenic climate change.

There is no doubt. A recent study found that between 1998 and 2002, there were 928 peer-reviewed scientific articles describing how human activity has caused climate change. There were 0 denying it.

Meanwhile, another study found that of the 141 books denying climate change – none of which were scientifically peer reviewed – 130 of them were written by conservative think tanks funded by Big Oil, or by authors affiliated with them.

In other words, the “debate” about climate change isn’t among scientists. It’s between scientists and industry lackeys who are paid to lie.

“Lie” may be too strong a word. How about “distort”? Or “selectively report”? Or maybe just “say stupid stuff”?

Case in point: the chilly weather this winter. By now, everyone who doesn’t rely on Fox News for fair and balanced opinion knows about the “polar vortex.” As shown in this computer model by WeatherBELL analytics, the cold air we’re experiencing is because arctic air has been displaced from the Arctic. In New York, we’re shivering. In Alaska, they’re (relatively) burning up, with temperatures in the 50s and 60s.

What’s more, the polar vortex got spinning in the first place because of climate change – more specifically, extremely unusual warming in the stratosphere in polar regions, likely due to ice melt, which is, of course, a result of global warming.

In other words, not only does this cold winter not disprove climate change; it proves it.

Of course, the paid ignoramuses over at Fox News are having a field day with the icy roads in Atlanta and the blizzards in Tennessee. Ha Ha! Where’s that Global Warming now?

That is an answerable question. Global Warming is “in” the hot air over Alaska, which has pushed cold air down to the Lower 48. That’s why the weather is so weird. This may be climatology, but it sure isn’t rocket science.

Most American Jews vote Democratic, and political beliefs being what they are – which is to say, forms of community consensus rather than rationally deduced positions – most Jews understand the basic logic of climate change, although there has not, to my knowledge, been a survey establishing this.

Yet in our community’s public discourse on the issue, we mistake the proper response.

Frankly, it doesn’t much matter if you recycle, or offset your carbon footprint, or switch to a hybrid car, if governments can’t take meaningful actions to reduce or offset greenhouse gas emissions. If China doesn’t play, we all lose. If power plants don’t change, we all lose. If carbon sequestration doesn’t happen, we all lose. And each of these steps (three among many that are needed) requires collective action.

No amount of personal virtue will prevent climate catastrophe. As long as the Republicans and other conservatives cling to the strategy of denial, even mockery, of climate change, we will get nowhere. There’s no point in urging climate change believers to be ever more environmentally correct in their behavior if we don’t vote out the politicians who obstruct the change we need.

The free market won’t save the Earth either. Yes, it may upset some conservatives, libertarians and Tea Partiers that government-led action is necessary to solve this particular problem. But that only points to the flaws in their ideologies. This is just not a problem that the Invisible Hand will solve.

If, as Jews, we believe that destroying the Earth’s climate is ethically or religiously wrong; and if we believe it to be the defining crisis of our time; then we must recognize that voting for climate change deniers is ethically or religiously wrong.

That partisan message is rarely proclaimed from the pulpits of American synagogues, where shalom bayit (getting along at “home”) is understandably a paramount virtue. But the reason it’s a partisan message is because conservatives have made climate change, which is a scientific fact, into a partisan issue.

They are wrong to do so, even if they are motivated by millions of industry dollars. And until conservatives start actually conserving, it is wrong not to call them on this latest instance of willful blindness – like so many that have gone before.

[Super Nova]

This one is a couple of years old but get a correct POV across.

Climate Change Deniers are “Not Even Wrong”
http://greenfyre.wordpress.com/2010/12/ ... ven-wrong/