Corona Virus - are we doomed ?

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Corona Virus - are we doomed ?

Post by Juliar » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:46 am

Is this CoronaVirus really a plot by the United Nations to reduce the world population ? In which case the Greenies will support it.

It is suspicious that AnAl from the Greeny controlled Labor Party wants infected CoronaVirus people to be brought to the Australian mainland so they can infect hundreds more!!!!!

Well done to the rapid and sensible response of the Coalition Government. The complaints about going to Christmas Island by some in China are frankly unbelievable. Let them go to the back of the queue. Albanese and Labor have their usual negative approach to and comments on the situation and matter which clearly explains why they are not in Government.

ScoMo with real world experience acts decisively and effectively while AnAl with only brown nosing experience in the union movement curls up and whines and whinges.


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Poor old union brown noser AnAl doesn't know which way to turn.



Christmas Island most responsible place for evacuees: Peter Dutton
RICHARD FERGUSON 8 MINUTES AGO JANUARY 30, 2020

The number of confirmed cases of the deadly coronavirus in Australia has risen to seven as a 44-year-old Chinese man was rushed into isolation for treatment on the Gold Coast ...

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Scott Morrison at Flying Fish Cove wharf on Christmas Island. Picture: Adam Taylor.

VIDEO: CoronaVirus on XMAS Island https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6127913703001

Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton has defended using Christmas Island as the best place to process Australians rescued from the coronavirus-stricken city of Wuhan, as Anthony Albanese blasted the decision, saying the government was using the island out of “embarrassment”.

The Labor leader on Thursday questioned whether the move was “motivated by a genuine belief that that’s the only option,” or just to be “seen to be doing something there.”

Scott Morrison re-opened Christmas Island to the cost of $185m last year to deal with the potential influx from the now-repealed laws allowing medical evacuations of refugees held offshore.



It will now be used to quarantine hundreds of Australians looking to get out of Wuhan in the wake of the coronavirus crisis.

Australia is in high-level negotiations with Beijing to rescue hundreds of children, elderly people and holiday-makers from the coronavirus-stricken Hubei province and quarantine them at Christmas Island for 14 days, but Scott Morrison says there is no guarantee the evacuations will succeed.

Mr Dutton has argued he cannot clear hospitals on the mainland for hundreds and blasted Labor critics, including a local island leader and WA premier Mark McGowan. of the plan.

The Home Affairs Minister said on Thursday that there were not the same facilities on the mainland for potentially hundreds of people who may have had contact with the deadly disease.

“I can’t clear a hospital in Sydney or Melbourne to accommodate 600 people. We don’t have a facility otherwise that can take this number of people,” he told the Nine Network.

“We act in our country’s best interests and those of our citizens. Other countries like Japan, South Korea, the United States, France, New Zealand obviously wants to get some of their residents out as well.

“We will make sure that we do it in a responsible way and Australia has some of the best practices in the world in terms of dealing with these viruses, making sure that we communicate effectively to the public.”


A Sri Lankan family – Priya and Nades Murugappan, and their two daughters – are also being held on the island awaiting a court challenge to their deportation and the Opposition Leader has argued for them to stay in Australia.

Mr Albanese on Thursday invoked the family and Mr Morrison’s opening of the island, accusing the government of looking for a proper use of the island detention centre.

“It’s unclear whether that is motivated by a genuine belief that that’s the only option or embarrassment of the government opening Christmas Island to hold a husband and a wife from Biloela and their two-year-old daughters at the cost of billions of dollars,” he told ABC radio.

“They have to be seen to be doing something there than holding a press conference for Scott Morrison there.”

Labor has until now stuck with the government’s lines on the handling of the coronavirus and Mr Albanese said he did not want to politicise the matter.

The Australian arrangements are similar to other countries’ Wuhan evacuation plans.

US consular staff repatriated on Wednesday have been sent to Anchorage, Alaska for re-screening before going to California, and Britain is considering isolating their evacuees in budget hotels or a military facility.

Christmas Island residents were seething after the announcement, with shire president Gordon Thomson saying successive federal governments had given the Australian territory colonialist treatment.

“Now we’ll be a leper colony,” he said. “Christmas Island remains a colony and is yet again getting the old regressive colonialist treatment from the great colonial power. Get lost, Scotty.”

Mr Dutton on Thursday morning batted off protests from Mr Thomson and pointed at his political affiliation.

“Gordon of course is the local president of the Labor Party,” he said.

“Mr Thomson was called before the announcement. He is on holidays in Malaysia and we could only get his voicemail. We couldn’t make contact with his office.”


Mr McGowan told reporters on Wednesday afternoon that he had not been informed of the Prime Minister’s decision to use Christmas Island, but supported the move.

Mr Dutton still accused the WA premier of making “political points.”

“We are not utilising any WA resources. We don’t want people going to Christmas Island medical centres or health facilities. We are isolating people within the assets of the Commonwealth government,” he said.

“And for the WA Premier to be out there making political points, and Gordon Thomson as a Labor Party member as well. making points off the back of a significant crisis I think reflects more on them than on Scott Morrison or anybody else.”

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation ... a26f25df37


The COMMENTS really slam the Greeny controlled AnAl into the dirt and OPPOSITION for the next 20 years.

Glen51 27 MINUTES AGO
If Albo does not like the decision, I wonder what Tanya thinks of it.

Wendy 42 MINUTES AGO
Quarantining potential carriers on Christmas Island is a brilliant idea. Prevention is always the best cure.

Steve 51 MINUTES AGO
Despite all of the faults of this Coalition Govt, including "ticking & flicking" to Treasury most of the time, the Christmas Island quarantine move has been one of its more responsible and better decisions.

There is a legal issue as well. If Cabinet Ministers fail to act decisively on this, you could see a massive class action from the relatives of the (then) deceased, in relation to their failure to act on a clearly known risk.

Ken 53 MINUTES AGO
Excellent use of taxpayer funds spent on Christmas Island. I've been there, by the way. It's wonderful.

Sze-Ming 1 HOUR AGO
Albanese has no credit whatsoever. Billions to re-open Christmas Island? What rubbish. No wonder the ALP squander our taxes when they are in office if he thinks those numbers are real.
As for Christmas Island, why would you bring potentially sick people to the mainland and risk spreading a contagion? It makes total sense to keep them in isolation for a short period. If the people don't want to stay there, then maybe they can stay in China until it all blows over. Maybe a wait though.

Michael 1 HOUR AGO
The Australian public mean nothing to Albo. He and the Greens seize every opportunity to brag about their "compassion" at the expense of national interest and public good. The public safety and our economy must be the first consideration.

George 1 HOUR AGO
Heh heh. Who is going to guard the Guards?

FickleFinger 1 HOUR AGO
Oh, please. Opposition leaders wake up every day and think, okay, what has the government done that I can find something wrong with.

Cheryl 1 HOUR AGO
The Labor leader on Thursday questioned whether the move was “motivated by a genuine belief that that’s the only option,” or just to be “seen to be doing something there.”
Go away Albo, the adults are working and you are just an annoyance. Did you not learn anything from last May?

DenjPas 1 HOUR AGO
Maybe, Albanese would like them in his electorate so then he could accuse the government of neglecting their duty. In case you haven't noticed "each way" Albo most Australians feel safe under this government as we don't have open borders like when your mob was in power and quarrantineing people is the only sensible thing to do. Once again the Today show showed their ineptitude when the host tried their hardest to get gotcha moments with Dutton this morning.

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Re: Corona Virus - are we doomed ?

Post by The Reboot » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:57 am

I don't even agree with evacuating them full stop.. they should stay in the infected shithole it originated in. It's self-centered and disgraceful that people will risk the lives of others to "come home". Am I supposed to feel sympathy for people who are stupid enough to go to China in the first place? :roll: this is how diseases spread and make an international epidemic... because of virtue-signallers who don't see the 'bigger picture' and will risk the many to save the few just so long as the spot light is upon them.

Having said that, Christmas Island is better than the mainland.

If Labor were in charge it'd be...

"SAVE THE REFUGEES! OPEN THE BORDERS!" :giggle

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Re: Corona Virus - are we doomed ?

Post by Texan » Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:39 pm

I don't know if this virus is any worse than the flu. It's hard to tell how deadly it actually is because people in China aren't getting good healthcare. Has anyone outside of China died?

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Re: Corona Virus - are we doomed ?

Post by Juliar » Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:06 pm

Here's What You Need To Know About Coronavirus In Australia
We spoke to a doctor to see if you're at risk - by Kieran Kennedy 28 JAN 2020

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We're only one month into the year, but 2020 has already been plagued by an outbreak of the Coronavirus. While thousands of cases have been reported in China - the origin of the virus - Australia is beginning to see its own patients, with numbers growing by the days. Reports have likened the outbreak to similar illnesses such as SARS and Swine flu so we decided to chat to Melbourne-based doctor, Dr. Kieran Kennedy to see how concerned we should be.

What is the Coronavirus and how did it start?
Virus outbreaks can be incredibly anxiety provoking for a lot of people, and for good reason. So outlining what exactly the new Coronavirus is, how worried we need to be right now and how the outbreak started is important.

As a broader group, viruses are pathogenic agents that infect animals and humans by entering cells within the body to hijack our own DNA so they can replicate and spread further. This process can lead to dysfunction and death of cells within the body, which (alongside our body’s immune response) results in the symptoms we experience from a viral infection.

Coronaviruses are a specific family of virus already well established as infective agents in animals and humans. There are many different forms and as a family of viruses it’s a large one. Most Coronavirus types affect animals only, however, rarely, genetic mutations allow viruses to ‘jump’ to humans. The viruses responsible for Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS-CoV) and Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS-CoV) - both of which can cause severe infection and pneumonias - are forms of Coronavirus.

Many people will likely have been infected with a Coronavirus at some point in their lives, and the vast majority will only experience mild to moderate cold/flu like symptoms.

The majority of these cause illness such as the common cold, chest infections and other respiratory illnesses. In severe cases however Coronavirus infections can lead to significant pneumonia, acute respiratory shut down, organ damage and even death.

The recent outbreak of Coronavirus in China has emerged as a novel or new form of Coronavirus that we haven’t seen before, with reports emerging on December 31 2019 of chest infections occurring in the Wuhan City, Hubei Province, in China from an unknown source. At the moment this strain has been labelled ‘2019-CoV’. As the outbreak has happened so recently, specifics about what the virus is, how it formed and how it spreads are still coming to light. Researchers and The World Health Organisation (WHO) are actively investigating, and releasing updated information as it comes to light.

The exact source of the new virus is still unclear, but it appears most likely to have come from an animal source. Very recent research shows that it might have been transmitted from snakes. Ongoing investigation into how and where the virus formed is still underway however.

Have we had the Coronavirus before?
Yes, many of us will actually have been infected with some form of Coronavirus at some stage. Coronaviruses are common among animals, and the majority of these can’t cross-infect or transmit to humans. There are a number of forms however that do infect us humans, and circulate between people. Most cause mild to moderate symptoms of the common cold, but can cause pneumonia (chest infections), Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome (MERS-CoV), Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS-CoV) or (in severe cases) death. These viruses tend to hit those at risk from respiratory illness and complications of viral illness most - this can include the very young or very elderly, those with compromised immune systems and those with pre-existing lung conditions.

As with any form of new or novel virus however, this most recent strain of Coronavirus is one we haven’t seen before. It’s thus unclear how exactly it might spread, the effects it might have on the body and how significant infections might be. When new strains of virus hit that our bodies haven’t been exposed to before, concern arises as our immune systems might not yet have mounted defences to these new forms and spread can potentially be rapid.

What are the symptoms of the Coronavirus that is currently spreading in China?
Starting with those infected by the virus in Wuhan, China, it appears that most cases have caused symptoms like the common cold such as fatigue, cough, runny nose and generally feeling ill. From the information we currently have, it looks like most infected with the virus have only suffered mild to moderate cold-like symptoms.

Current information shows too however that infection with this new form of Coronavirus can result in severe chest infections with fever, severe cough and difficulty breathing. With severe cases, acute respiratory distress (inability to breath), organ failure and even death appear to have occurred.

Those with risk factors for being hit hard by respiratory and viral infections are likely to be most at risk from severe effects. This includes those with lowered immunity or severe medical conditions, those with pre-existing lung conditions, and potentially the very young or old.

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Is the virus contagious? How can the virus be spread from human to human?
Like other Coronaviruses, this new strain is contagious. The extent of how contagious and how easily spread this one is continues to be investigated however.

It’s most likely this novel form first spread from animals to humans, and that this is the main mode of transmission. The Centre for Disease Control (CDC) has outlined that there are cases of the virus spreading between people, but less so at this stage. For viruses to be significantly contagious (i.e. to cause pandemics), then fast and easy human to human spread is needed - investigations are still ongoing but current information doesn’t show this is yet the case with the new Coronavirus compared to some we’ve seen before (i.e. SARS).

As the Coronavirus is largely a respiratory (airways and lung) virus, spread from human to human is most likely to occur from respiratory droplets present in the air when we cough or sneeze. Close personal contact such as kissing, hugging or shaking hands could lead to transmission too, as could contact with surfaces or objects that have been contaminated (i.e. sneezed on). More rarely the virus could potentially be spread via human faeces according to The CDC. With regard to spread from animal sources, unprotected contact with live or dead infected animals, surfaces/areas contaminated by infected animals or raw/uncooked meat could be means of spread.

This can all sound pretty scary and anxiety provoking, so it’s important to know that ongoing research and investigation is being carried out as we speak. Current evidence shows that most spread has likely occurred from animals to humans at this stage, isolated largely to the Wuhan region in China. Cases have occurred in Australia since the virus emerged, however it appears that containment measures and contact tracing so far so that any spread of the virus here on our shores is very limited/low risk at present.

Is there a vaccine out?
As of yet there is no specific vaccine for this Coronavirus - however some limited reports outline that investigations to produce one and other potential treatments are underway.

How is the virus treated?
Treatment for Coronavirus is much the same as other viral infections, and depends on the symptoms present and the extent of illness. There is no specific treatment or medication for Coronavirus, and (as with all viral illnesses) antibiotics won’t kill these guys off.

Those with mild to moderate cold type symptoms are encouraged to rest and manage symptoms by simple measures (i.e. sleep, fluids, simple symptomatic relief), while limiting spread to others (i.e. staying home, hand hygiene, face mask). For those who experience chest infections or more severe consequences of infection, then supportive hospital treatment might be required. This can include anything from high level symptom relief and supportive treatments for fever, breathing and other effects on the body. In severe cases where life threatening effects from infection occur, individuals can require intensive care support within the hospital.

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How likely is an outbreak in Australia and should we be worried?
As of January 26th, The World Health Organisation has outlined that just over 2000 con-firmed cases have arisen and that vast majority of these are isolated to China. A number of individuals have sadly passed away from the infection (with most up to date reports out-lining more than 80 have been confirmed thus far), and a larger proportion of cases have resulted in severe/life-threatening complications.

Australia has seen 4 confirmed cases of the new Coronavirus as of January 26th, but current reports show that fears of wider spread within Australia are not presently held. Each of these cases have been traced to the Wuhan region, and health authorities here have already set up means to survey and monitor potential individuals suspected of infection, or entering Australia with the risk of infection, so it’s hoped cases here will be limited. At the moment, Australian authorities are encouraging that we not worry unduly and that risk of significant spread in Australia appears low risk at present.

The WHO has yet to issue any specific travel related restrictions in relation to the virus, but the Centre for Disease Control has advised people not to travel to Wuhan City in China and there are travel restrictions in place in China itself. With high rates of travel expected with Chinese New Year approaching it is expected that further cases in other countries will likely arise.

Investigation into this new Coronavirus is active and ongoing, so information and prediction wise it’s early days. While there’s every chance cases will continue to rise in Australia, it’s hoped that this will be limited. It’s possible new information will come to light, however at this stage it appears the virus isn’t spread as easily between humans as those that might cause major outbreaks or pandemics. Keeping updated on findings and updates from The World Health Organisation and trusted sources online can be a good way to keep on top of any areas of spread.

Any new virus is a potential cause for concern, but at this stage it’s important to not let anxiety or panic rule. It’s hoped that the impact and risks around this new virus will be contained, and remain much lower than infection rates that already occur each and every year from (for example) Influenza. Keeping updated on information as it emerges and practising simple measures to limit your infection risk can be key.

For Coronavirus, it’s recommended that we practice hand hygiene by washing hands regularly with alcohol gel or soap and water for at least 20 seconds (especially if we’re prepping food, eating, have come into close contact with someone who might be unwell or we’re touching our mouth/eyes/nose). Always cough/sneeze into your elbow or a tissue rather than onto your hands or surfaces, and wash your hands straight after. For viruses spread by animals, avoiding unprotected contact with live or dead animals in areas of spread, preparing meat safely and cooking meat well is encouraged.

Lastly, if you’re worried that yourself or someone else might be displaying symptoms then avoiding places of potential spread (i.e. work, public transport) is a good way to limit spread to others. For any concerns, or significant symptoms like severe cough, fever or difficulty breathing then it’s important to seek advice and review with a doctor right away. This is especially if you have travelled to areas with known infection/cases recently, or have come into contact with someone who has.


https://www.menshealth.com.au/coronavir ... -i-at-risk

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Re: Corona Virus - are we doomed ?

Post by The Reboot » Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:33 pm

Texan wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:39 pm
I don't know if this virus is any worse than the flu. It's hard to tell how deadly it actually is because people in China aren't getting good healthcare. Has anyone outside of China died?
Not yet, as far as I know. I'd rather not take the risk, regardless. Makes more logical sense to contain a problem to one area as much as possible, rather than having it spreading out of control and all over the place.

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Post by Outlaw Yogi » Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:22 pm

Those who've died all seem to be old or have pre-existing respiratory problems.
Dr Snake Charmer's advice is keep your immune system strong with vitamin C and ginger root.
If Donald Trump is so close to the Ruskis, why couldn't he get Vladimir Putin to put novichok in Xi Jjinping's lipstick?

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Post by Juliar » Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:32 pm

No surprise on the Vitamin D. Here are doctors using it and naming it "The Vitamin D Hammer" because it works so well.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4463890/

Using a modified version of the above(i.e. 10,000 IU with dinner, 3,000 IU with breakfast) works well.
Less sun exposure in winter = less Vitamin D generated by one's body(skin exposure) in winter.




THIS TIP COULD HELP KEEP YOU SAFE FROM CORONA VIRUS
By Harry Richardson March 4, 2020

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Corona Virus is Here

Well, Corona Virus is here in Brisbane. We just found out that a Chinese student has been diagnosed with it in Toowong.

That has left people desperately hoping for a Corona Virus remedy.

Corona virus is quite contagious, so it is unlikely that it will be contained.

Being as the victim is a young student, however, there is about a 99% chance that our man will recover.

The odds may yet turn out to be rather better than that, once more is known about the disease.

Although it is far less virulent than Sars, what this virus has managed to do, is to miraculously remove all the dunny paper from our local supermarkets.

That has left me wiping my behind with The Sydney Morning Herald once more – except this time, it isn’t out of spite.

My Miracle Cure for Colds and Flu
I am not a health professional so you can take what I am about to tell you as an old wives’ tale if you wish. I can guarantee it won’t work for everyone, but this has worked wonders for me.

I have always been very fit and healthy – except for one thing. When I was younger, I would constantly catch colds and flu.

I only had to sit near someone who had a cold and I would feel my nose starting to run almost instantly (I’m not a hypochondriac by the way, and I’m not making that up).

Sometimes, I would barely have shaken one cold, before the next one would start.

I’ve never been a believer in vitamin pills. I always figured that a balanced diet would give you what you needed. I did try a few things like Vitamin C or Echinacea, more out of desperation than anything.

Sadly, nothing worked and I soon lost interest. Then, a co-worker suggested I try Vitamin D.

“What the heck” I sniffled, so I gave it a go. I bought a pack of the 1000UI Vitamin D (sometimes called Vitamin D3) pills from the local chemist and took one a day. Boy did that work well.



It didn’t just reduce the colds I got. Pretty soon, I stopped getting colds altogether.

What Happened When I Stopped Taking Vitamin D
The last time I had a cold was when I went to the UK a couple of years ago and didn’t take enough pills with me.

I figured I could buy more of them over there, but I was wrong.

A couple of weeks later, sure enough, I caught a cold.

Maybe that was psychosomatic, but I haven’t had one since.


Experts have now determined that this virus did not originate from Mexican beer, or my uncle’s crappy Toyota.
I assume that I had a deficiency of Vitamin D. One thing a lack of Vitamin D does is to pull down your immune system.

Some friends have benefitted from this advice as I have, but some haven’t really seen a difference. I guess if you have a lack of Vitamin D, then boosting your levels should help you to resist colds, flu – and the Corona Virus.

You can buy Vitamin D pills cheaply in the supermarket (I have used various brands) and they help with the absorption of calcium as a bonus.

If you are prone to colds and flu like I was, it might be worth a shot.

I never heard of any downside, but of course, check with your health professional before taking any such decision (and please don’t sue me if you get Corona Virus anyway).

https://richardsonpost.com/harryrichard ... us-remedy/

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Post by Juliar » Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:11 pm

Silly old union brown noser AnAl tries to steal some of ScoMo's Corona Virus thunder.

Functionless AnAl seems to realize the Greeny controlled Labor Party will be in OPPOSITION for the next 20 years.

Bungling bumbling AnAl could not lead a thirsty sheep to a bucket of water!!!!


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Power to the people - but NOT under the Greeny controlled Labor Party!!!!!


Govt must not just 'follow demand' with stimulus package
11/03/2020|4min

Video: AnAl trying not to look a fool https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6140302466001

Anthony Albanese has urged the government to not simply “follow demand” as it puts together its coronavirus stimulus package.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison on Wednesday announced the government’s $2.4 billion health package, but the opposition leader said the announcement caused a pause of concern.

“It is of some concern they are saying today’s announcements are demand driven. What we need on this is to provide leadership, not complacency. Leading doesn’t mean following demand,” he said.

Mr Albanese also warned against only testing those who have been to certain countries.

“The fact is I think this global epidemic is far beyond looking at specific countries just being impacted,” he said.

“For many nations who do not have a health system as sophisticated as ours, it’s clear there are hidden figures from many nations in our region.”

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6140302466001

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Re: Corona Virus - are we doomed ?

Post by Juliar » Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:24 pm

How to protect yourself from the Corona Virus

DT 08/03/2020, 8:08 am
Vitamin C and D3 and for older people keep Coloidal Silver on hand for cold or flu.
I read an interesting comment about Silver and possibly why the wealthy people in times past were generally healthier than the less fortunate poorer folk. The well to do people ate and drank from Silver just about everything.

DT 08/03/2020, 8:17 am
For your information; https://draxe.com/nutrition/colloidal-silver-benefits/

Pensioner Pete 08/03/2020, 11:15 am
I generate my own colloidal silver with a device purchased from a bloke in South Australia about 15 years ago, placed atop an empty 400gram Maccona coffee glass bottle, once made up, I pour the solution into a 500mL dark glass bottle and store in a cupboard for use as required.

It is really good for conjunctivitis and also ear infections brought about by my hearing aids. Also pretty good for skin infections.

DT 08/03/2020, 2:17 pm
PP I read that in the “olden days” people placed a silver coin into milk to keep it from going off.

PeterW 08/03/2020, 5:56 pm
I believe bacteria cannot live on silver surfaces. So I can understand the longevity of the well to do.

DT 09/03/2020, 5:22 am
PeterW From the various sources I have accessed Colloidal Silver best quality is an excellent alternative for many health issues but a pharmacist extended family member was very professional with her reply to my questions and simply said CS is not approved so she cannot comment. A doctor (vet surgeon) I asked also sort of family was also reluctant to comment.

Botswana O'Hooligan 09/03/2020, 12:00 pm
It used to be that people placed a silver fork or spoon in the water jug to supposedly kill bugs. Over the years I forgot about that until I went to live in Russia and discovered that most Russian people still did that. After perestroika the e-coli levels in the city water supply were about 200 times the acceptable limit so we flew in our own water from Japan until we obtained some industrial grade filters.

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Post by Juliar » Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:31 pm

Is it safe to be complacent about the Corona Virus ?

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Can ScoMo save us ?


The filthy lying press
08.03.20

After filling page after page with stories that the end of the world is coming as a result of corona virus.
After panicking readers with story after story detailing the latest one person here or there to have tested positive;
After having quoted one bloody expert after another warning that the toll could be as great as the black death;
After having the tourist industry decimated;
After having driven Flybe airline into bankruptcy;
After having spooked the biggest gambling institutions in the world, the stock exchanges, into panic selling;
After warning of another global financial crisis is just round the corner;
After warning the world that there will be terrible shortages of toilet paper;
After scaring the world with tales that we will run out of wood for coffins;

The Lügenpresse, the dirty lying press, have had their knackers put in a vice and told to cut it out and tell everybody it is safe to travel after all, don’t be afraid. So they have – and leading the pack, as usual, is the Daily Mail. Wait for the others to follow suit and slowly, gently, slowly, gently, scold everyone for panicking, then quietly stop reporting bullshit.

Already booked – or planning a trip? As the corona virus crisis grows, our crucial guide to the question every traveller’s asking… Should I stay or should I go?

If you’re under 50 and healthy, you should remain positive about holidays.

The advice is against ‘all but essential’ travel to mainland China, parts of South Korea and ten towns in northern Italy, due to the coronavirus, while some countries, such as Israel, have started to impose their own travel bans.

But what about a holiday in other parts of Italy or if you’re booked on a cruise? Or about to take a long-haul flight? What are the risks for worldwide travel? And is your travel insurance primed for the unexpected?s it risky to go on a cruise?

Cruise ship quarantines and outbreaks onboard have caused a ripple effect across the industry, forcing liners to implement immediate precautions, including cancellations to restricted areas, alterations to schedules, and far more stringent screening of all passengers when boarding and disembarking.

Currently, sailings to mainland China and east Asia are the only ones that have been cancelled.

A spokesperson from Cruise Lines International Association (CLIA), the governing body, says: ‘Onboard, cruise ship crew are very experienced in sanitation protocols, and hand sanitisers are located in various locations throughout the ship which guests and crew use frequently.

‘Cruise ships have strict protocols to clean, disinfect and decontaminate during and after each cruise.’ Some, such as Saga and Fred Olsen, are removing cancellation fees on new bookings.Should I be scared of flying?

Most commercial aircraft have HEPA (high efficiency particulate air) filters to remove airborne contaminants.

David Powell, a medical adviser to IATA (International Air Transport Association), says: ‘The virus can’t survive long on seats or armrests, so physical contact with another person carries the greatest risk of infection on a flight.

Masks and gloves do a better job of spreading bugs than stopping them.‘

Leftist media saturates the news. Fight back. Send articles to your friends, politicians, local media, and facebook.

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