No room for girlfriends at Ivanhoe Girls' dance

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No room for girlfriends at Ivanhoe Girls' dance

Post by Super Nova » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:12 pm

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/no-ro ... 17m4g.html
A few weeks earlier, a teacher had told the year 11 student she wasn't allowed to attend the Preston dinner dance with her 15-year-old girlfriend, Savannah Supski. She was asked to bring a male instead.

''It made me very upset. I thought it was unfair so I didn't go,'' she said.

''I put a lot of effort into trying to fix things. I had a meeting with principals, looked through the Equal Opportunity Act, all my friends put posters up around the school and the teachers ripped them down. There was an easy solution; they just needed to let me go with my girlfriend.''

Hannah's father, Peter Williams, lodged a complaint with the Equal Opportunities Commission, alleging the school had discriminated against his daughter because of her sexual orientation.

''The school kept saying because it is an all-girls' school we want to make an event where they can meet boys in a social scenario,'' he said. ''That process is anachronistic and creates feelings of discrimination among girls who are same-sex attracted.''

After lodging the complaint in September, Mr Williams had a mediation session with the school, but the two parties were unable to reach a conclusion.

The Williams family did not take matters further because it was becoming too stressful for their teenage daughter, who will complete her VCE next year.

Mr Williams said the experience had forced his daughter to move to Swinburne Senior Secondary College, a ''more accepting'' school in Hawthorn.

''We made the decision that the best thing to do was to leave the school. The basis has been the whole sense of institutionalised discrimination,'' he said.

''They had a clear idea of why they ran the event, but the world has moved on. It's not the greatest time in someone's educational life to move schools.''

Savannah, now 16, is also moving schools to be with her girlfriend and was happy to hear that Swinburne Secondary College allows same-sex couples to attend formals together.

''I have been not very happy with private schools all my life and this was pushing it. It was a homophobic issue and I feel extremely discriminated against at the old school,'' she said.

Sian Supski supports her daughter's decision to leave the school.

''The idea that there had to be a gender balance at the dinner dance seemed to be discriminatory. It was a very difficult time for Savannah but she's an amazingly strong young person and we are very proud of her.''

Mrs Supski said she was disappointed Ivanhoe Girls' Grammar did not adopt a more progressive approach to same-sex couples. ''It would have been a good thing for other girls who might be in a same-sex relationship and don't feel brave enough to come out, tell their parents and be in a school situation.''

Ivanhoe Girls' Grammar principal Heather Schnagl said the event did not discriminate against same-sex couples and was designed to promote a co-educational experience.

''I don't think it's appropriate they feel discriminated against, and I'm very upset they feel that,'' she said.

''If we opened it up and said girls could bring another female they would all bring females; the policy is trying to create an event where boys are invited. We are a school that has an all-girls environment, and they are meant to invite guests, not partners.''

Dr Schnagl said the event was under review for next year.

She said the students' ages had also been an issue. ''It's an event for year 11s and the student's guest was in year 10.''

Hannah said her classmates had taken younger males to the event and she was the only student asked to provide the age of her partner. ''They kept on making up excuses, and said everything was a problem for me.''

Roz Ward, co-ordinator of the Safe Schools Coalition, unveiled by the state government last month to tackle homophobia in schools, said the incident was a blatant example of discrimination.

''It's a big issue for schools to be visibly supportive of same-sex couples and one of the most visible events of the year is the school formal or dinner dance. One of the six recommendations we make to schools is to allow students to take their same-sex partners or friends to their school formal and they should make it obvious that is the case,'' Ms Ward said.

The Equal Opportunity Commission said it could not comment on the case.
In this age of tolerance and support for gays is it right that schools need to be PC and allow same sex couples to attend school dances?
More importantly, is it right to stop them?

Such a waste, they are 2 pretty girls.

I don't know about the guys here but for some reason I find it easier to accept girls taking their same sex partner than guys. There must be some in build descriminator in me even though over the year my mind has accepted gays in all forms. Must be the homophobic macho country upbringing that is still deep within me.

This is a difficult topic as it runs against the values I was brought up with and I have had to work on for so many years to at least outwouldly be tolerant. Particulary in the workplace and socially.

Descrimination of gays needs to be full eliminated from institutions or we as a society need to clarify the exceptions. To provide certainty for all.
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Re: No room for girlfriends at Ivanhoe Girls' dance

Post by IQSRLOW » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:14 pm

This sort of thing needs to be licked in the bud

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Re: No room for girlfriends at Ivanhoe Girls' dance

Post by Super Nova » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:17 pm

IQSRLOW wrote:This sort of thing needs to be licked in the bud
LOL :D
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Re: No room for girlfriends at Ivanhoe Girls' dance

Post by Super Nova » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:18 pm

Now IQ is that sort of comment, even though I did laugh therefore must have throught it funny, a way to attract new female members?

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Post by IQSRLOW » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:22 pm

Short haired ones that wear overalls?
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Post by TheDoctor » Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:19 am

Ivanhoe Girls' Grammar School is an Anglican day school strongly committed to single sex education for girls. Catering for students from Early Learning Centre (Three Year Old) to Year 12 with a current total enrolment of 1040 students, 770 of whom are in the Senior School, Ivanhoe Girls' Grammar School seeks to provide excellence in education within a caring Christian community and to prepare young women for a personally and professionally fulfilling life. The School's mission is:

Ivanhoe Girls' Grammar School aims to provide the best learning and teaching which, underpinned by the Christian philosophy, enables every girl to achieve her potential and to be a confident, optimistic and responsible citizen.

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Re: No room for girlfriends at Ivanhoe Girls' dance

Post by Super Nova » Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:22 am

underpinned by the Christian philosophy
I guess that explains why they were not so open to the concept of a same sex partner attending the dance.
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Re: No room for girlfriends at Ivanhoe Girls' dance

Post by Super Nova » Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:59 am

Studies have shown that 60 per cent of same-sex-attracted young people experience verbal or physical abuse, most of it taking place in schools.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/schoo ... 17nr8.html

Interesting to note a new PC term. "same-sex-attracted". Is this the new PC term for "gay" but not quite sure yet because they are so young?

It is hard to stay PC these days.
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Re: No room for girlfriends at Ivanhoe Girls' dance

Post by HIGHERBEAM » Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:04 am

underpinned by the Christian philosophy
Is this the christian philosphy that over the eons condemned Mary Magdalene to be a prostitute just because she was a disciple of Jesus and the early christians did not want women involved in the church so altered the history of the early church to condemn her to be a prostitute.Virgin in olden times actually meant unwed,now it has moved to its modern version.I fail to see any resemblance of early christian values and philosophy coming through to the modern sanitised variant.Jesus was not celibant and had friends and disciples of male and female, so I fail to see a issue of allowing bisexuals, homosexuals or any other variant to attend formals as this is the real world not a sanitised version of the bible.
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Re: No room for girlfriends at Ivanhoe Girls' dance

Post by boxy » Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:00 pm

I heard that the girl that she wanted to accompany her was deemed too young to attend.

I be guessing that that was a convinient excuse, anyway.
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