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Re: Global Warming

Post by Rorschach » Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:02 pm

Dumb as Shit...
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Re: Global Warming

Post by DaS Energy » Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:38 pm

Inkblot.

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Re: Global Warming

Post by Neferti » Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:38 pm

DaS Energy wrote:Inkblot.
I wondered where this nick came from. Here 'tis.

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Re: Global Warming

Post by DaS Energy » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:23 pm

Neferti~ wrote:
DaS Energy wrote:Inkblot.
I wondered where this nick came from. Here 'tis.

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Neferti, your good! But no not from there exactly, but yes your correct to its purpose!

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Re: Global Warming

Post by Rorschach » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:44 pm

Off topic and wrong...
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Re: Global Warming

Post by Super Nova » Wed Mar 26, 2014 7:52 pm

IQS.RLOW wrote:Well, just look at that will you? All those peaks and troughs around for 100s of 1000s of years without the hysterics of CAGW and look where we are today, at the peak of what seems to be a cycle...hmmm I wonder what that means eh?

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You think there might have been just a smidge of ice melting around 130000 years ago? What would you blame that on? Mastadon farts?

Thanks for this. The trend in the graph you have provided should alarm you. The CO2 levels track very closely to temperature the graph and the graph shows the CO2 going above the high point on the previous trends. It would follow that the temperature will follow up tracking at the same rate. However we know that temperature increase is not tracking exactly to the trend for many reasons and is just delayed.

Your graph confirms we should be concerned about the relationship between GHGs and global temperature. thank you for that. I am glad that you may see the risk presented.

In a couple of weeks we will have the IPPPC conference and we can begin again based on more information.

Oh... latest on the forecast for Europe.

BTW what they call a heat wave here I don't even feel it. They are really wimps. They should spend a month with Yogi in the summer to get a feel for what hot is about.

Britain will have more hotter, drier summers due to climate change, Met Office says

Heatwaves such as that seen in 2003 will become the norm across Europe by the 2040s due to global warming, scientists say

Heatwave summers will be the norm in Europe by the 2040s as a result of climate change, the Met Office has said.

Average temperatures across Europe will exceed those seen in 2003 – when Britain recorded its highest ever temperature of 38.5C (101.3F) – in more than half the summers that decade.

“The UK is expected to see more milder, wetter winters and more hotter, drier summers in the future,” the Met Office said in a report.

“By the 2040s more than half of summers in Europe will be warmer than 2003, and by the end of this century 2003 would be classed as a cold summer relative to the new climate.”
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The Met Office made the predictions in a report ahead of the latest Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change assessment next week into the likely impacts of global warming.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/weath ... -says.html
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Re: Global Warming

Post by Super Nova » Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:18 pm

LucasTheInnkeeper wrote:
Super Nova wrote:The trend in the graph you have provided should alarm you.
:rofl :rofl :rofl

This thread just keeps on giving doesn't it :rofl :thumb
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Re: Global Warming

Post by IQS.RLOW » Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:37 pm

Can you try to address a post with posting yet another alarmist claptrap opinion article with it? It's fucking annoying.

In any case, why would it be cause for alarm? The models say that temps should be skyrocketing. They are not. The theory is debunked. There's no bunk left. Totally free of bunk.

Not to mention that the graph is alarmist proxy massaging of the ice core data to follow a story that isn't quite playing out the ending the alarmists want, hence the wails about "the science is settled" and "we need to act now to avoid being rooooned"

The reason for those calls is because the alarmists know as well as anyone else with half a brain cell, their version of the Mayan doom calendar has past its use by date and idiots like yourself are left sucking your thumb and rocking in the foetal position after selling all your worldly possessions and you are starting to look mighty foolish, and with no exit plan all you can do is ramp your nonsense claims to try and avoid looking even more foolish.

It's not working.
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Re: Global Warming

Post by DaS Energy » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:38 am

"Mayan doom calendar" No such thing, never was. Just hype over the calendar pages not going on for eternity. Modern societies have dooms day occurring every twelve months.

The models say that temps should be skyrocketing. Really?, post one!

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Re: Global Warming

Post by Super Nova » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:07 pm

IQS.RLOW wrote:Can you try to address a post with posting yet another alarmist claptrap opinion article with it? It's fucking annoying.

In any case, why would it be cause for alarm? The models say that temps should be skyrocketing. They are not. The theory is debunked. There's no bunk left. Totally free of bunk.

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It's not working.
One of my missions is to win this debate and the fact that you are losing and it annoys you is just a side benefit.

You claim it is debunked when those that have the science and knowledge say the opposite. Climate change/warming is real.
The laws of physics are non-negotiable. Don't you believe in the laws of physics? is your head so clouded by your dogma that you can not understand the physical world and the laws that govern it?

The theory is far from been debunked it has been confirmed again by the WMO. I guess these guys don't know shit either.

Global warming will disrupt food supplies, slow world economic growth and may already be causing irreversible damage to nature. Fuck, it will slow economic growth, now you should be concerned about that and get with the programme.

At the risk of annoying you further here is an article summarising their report.
- "There is no standstill in global warming,"
-"The warming of our oceans has accelerated, and at lower depths. More than 90 percent of the excess energy trapped by greenhouse gases is stored in the oceans.

Time to wake up and pull your head out of the sand. Your position is wrong and while I know you hate been wrong it is time for you to man up and admit it.

Global warming not stopped, will go on for centuries: WMO
Mon Mar 24, 2014 4:43pm EDT

(Reuters) - There has been no reverse in the trend of global warming and there is still consistent evidence for man-made climate change, the head of the U.N. World Meteorological Organisation (WMO) said on Monday.

A slow-down in the average pace of warming at the planet's surface this century has been cited by "climate skeptics" as evidence that climate change is not happening at the potentially catastrophic rate predicted by a U.N. panel of scientists.

But U.N. weather agency chief Michel Jarraud said ocean temperatures, in particular, were rising fast, and extreme weather events, forecast by climate scientists, showed climate change was inevitable for the coming centuries.

"There is no standstill in global warming," Jarraud said as he presented the WMO's annual review of the world's climate which concluded that 2013 tied with 2007 as the sixth hottest year since 1850 when recording of annual figures began.

"The warming of our oceans has accelerated, and at lower depths. More than 90 percent of the excess energy trapped by greenhouse gases is stored in the oceans.

"Levels of these greenhouse gases are at a record, meaning that our atmosphere and oceans will continue to warm for centuries to come. The laws of physics are non-negotiable," Jarraud told a news conference.

The 21-page survey said the global land and sea surface temperature in 2013 was 14.5 degrees Celsius (58.1 Fahrenheit), or 0.50C (0.90F) above the 1961-90 average. It was also 0.03C (0.05F) up on the average for 2001-2010.

The WMO's Annual Statement on the Status of the Climate, pointed to droughts, heatwaves, rising seas, floods and tropical cyclones around the globe last year as evidence of what the future might hold.

FLUCTUATIONS

It was issued on the eve of a conference bringing climate scientists together with officials from over 100 governments in Japan from March 25-29 to approve a report on the effects of future global warming and how these might be mitigated.

A draft of this report, from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), says global warming will disrupt food supplies, slow world economic growth and may already be causing irreversible damage to nature.

The chair of the IPCC, Rajendra Pachauri, told Reuters last week that the report made even more compelling the scientific arguments for a reduction in greenhouse gas emissions.

Some 200 countries have agreed to try to limit global warming to less than 2.0 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial times, largely by cutting emissions from burning fossil fuels like coal, oil and gas.

Skeptics argue that changes in global weather are the product of natural fluctuations or other natural causes.

But such arguments were rejected by Jarraud.

Natural phenomena like volcanoes or the El Nino/La Nina weather patterns originating in Pacific Ocean temperature changes had always framed the planet's climate, affecting heat levels and disasters like drought and floods, he said.

"But many of the extreme events of 2013 were consistent with what we would expect as a result of human-induced climate change," declared the WMO chief, pointing to the destruction wreaked by Typhoon Haiyan in the Philippines.

Another example was the record hot summer of 2012-13 in Australia which brought huge bush fires and destruction of property. Computer simulations showed the heat wave was 5 times as likely under human influence on climate, Jarraud said.

Among other extreme events of 2013 probably due to climate change were winter freezes in the U.S. south-east and Europe, heavy rains and floods in north-east China and eastern Russia, snow across the Middle East and drought in south-east Africa.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/ ... MG20140324
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