Global Warming

[Rorschach]

Oh and BTW if we had no Sun, we'd have one climate it'd be called FROZEN.

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[boxy]

No shit, Sherlock.

[AiA in Atlanta]

Oh and BTW if we had no Sun, we'd have one climate it'd be called FROZEN.

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If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle

[Aussie]

Oh and BTW if we had no Sun, we'd have one climate it'd be called FROZEN.

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Mind boggling. Tomorrow, I'm gonna buy a heater. That'll save me.

[Rorschach]

hello Useless... I love the way you are so consistent.
You troll, jump in, make an inane comment and haven't once bothered to read the rest of the debate. Ever.

[Aussie]

hello Useless... I love the way you are so consistent.
You troll, jump in, make an inane comment and haven't once bothered to read the rest of the debate. Ever.

Sorry ever so much. It won''t happen again.

Oh and BTW if we had no Sun, we'd have one climate it'd be called FROZEN.

The Sun is down now.

[Rorschach]

hello Useless... I love the way you are so consistent.
You troll, jump in, make an inane comment and haven't once bothered to read the rest of the debate. Ever.

Sorry ever so much. It won''t happen again.

Oh and BTW if we had no Sun, we'd have one climate it'd be called FROZEN.

The Sun is down now.

Useless.... your idiocy just reached new levels of ignorance.
Congratulations

[Outlaw Yogi]

You lot really should study the history of this planet before dismissing something you clearly know nothing about.

I'm sorry you don't believe in the science... but... the primary climate driver of our planet is THE SUN...[/quote]


I do believe the genuine science, but not the bogus theory you believe which was debunked about a decade ago.
What you are calling science is bought and paid for fake science.
The nuke industry has a conflict of interest regarding GW, because light water reactors only ruin on enriched uranium.
and uranium enrichment processing releases huge amounts of GHGs.

Fact is this planet has been warming for 18,000 years, and has phuk all to do with the sun.
For roughly 100,000 years during the last ice age the planet got colder and colder year by year.
About 21,000 years ago the cooling halted.
Aprox 18,000 years ago the planet began to warm up, inducing 3 global floods - 17,000 years ago, 14,000 years ago, and 11,600 years ago.

Note these time frames do not correlate with the 'Precession of the Equinoxes' theory AKA Axial precession, in which the poles shift 30 degrees every 2165 years.
Usually the constant shift is slow, but in recent years the shift has doubled in pace, requiring compass bearings for naval/maritime and aerial navigation around the globe to be recalibrated at ever increasing paces.

These facts are recorded in the geological record, unlike your bogus theory/science which like archaeology is subject to a religious political agenda.
That's why if the want to study the history of this planet you research paleontology and geology, and ignore archaeology.

Y'see the GHG inding of GW theory can be repeatedly tested. That's called science.
The 'Sun did it theory' is no more than a conspiracy nutters fairy tale.

Why?
Because of the political agenda against taxing GHG emissions by industries most responsible for it.

Is carbon tax a scam?
Yes.
Why?
Because such funds are not used to remediate or mitigate GHG induced GW.
The money goes into politicians superannuation accounts and subsidies for the biggest GHG emitters.

For a carbon tax to be effective, it should have been introduced 3 decades ago and used to aid transition from fossil fuels to hydrogen souced from thermal solar generated saline water electrolysis.

I'm actually quite critical of both sides on this debate.
On one side we've got the deniers determined to destroy the planet for religious reasons,
and on the other the science based believers disseminating overly conservative estimates for fear of being viewed as alarmist.

Well the fact is we passed the tipping point into runaway global warming in 2007 when under sea floor methane clathrates began to thaw, bubble to the surface and gather in our atmosphere. Meaning abatement of GHG induced GW is now impossible. We are now on a doomsday roller coaster ride and the ultimate destination is unknown.
Although worst case scenarion is a re-run of the Permian extinction.

So the way I look at it is, if these clowns are so determined to destroy this world, so be it.
When the climate wars start over water, I will not be humanist, I will be barbaric.

[Rorschach]

You lot really should study the history of this planet before dismissing something you clearly know nothing about.

I'm sorry you don't believe in the science... but... the primary climate driver of our planet is THE SUN...

I do believe the genuine science, but not the bogus theory you believe which was debunked about a decade ago.
What you are calling science is bought and paid for fake science.
The nuke industry has a conflict of interest regarding GW, because light water reactors only ruin on enriched uranium.
and uranium enrichment processing releases huge amounts of GHGs.

Fact is this planet has been warming for 18,000 years, and has phuk all to do with the sun.
For roughly 100,000 years during the last ice age the planet got colder and colder year by year.
About 21,000 years ago the cooling halted.
Aprox 18,000 years ago the planet began to warm up, inducing 3 global floods - 17,000 years ago, 14,000 years ago, and 11,600 years ago.

Note these time frames do not correlate with the 'Precession of the Equinoxes' theory AKA Axial precession, in which the poles shift 30 degrees every 2165 years.
Usually the constant shift is slow, but in recent years the shift has doubled in pace, requiring compass bearings for naval/maritime and aerial navigation around the globe to be recalibrated at ever increasing paces.

These facts are recorded in the geological record, unlike your bogus theory/science which like archaeology is subject to a religious political agenda.
That's why if the want to study the history of this planet you research paleontology and geology, and ignore archaeology.

Y'see the GHG inding of GW theory can be repeatedly tested. That's called science.
The 'Sun did it theory' is no more than a conspiracy nutters fairy tale.

Why?
Because of the political agenda against taxing GHG emissions by industries most responsible for it.

Is carbon tax a scam?
Yes.
Why?
Because such funds are not used to remediate or mitigate GHG induced GW.
The money goes into politicians superannuation accounts and subsidies for the biggest GHG emitters.

For a carbon tax to be effective, it should have been introduced 3 decades ago and used to aid transition from fossil fuels to hydrogen souced from thermal solar generated saline water electrolysis.

I'm actually quite critical of both sides on this debate.
On one side we've got the deniers determined to destroy the planet for religious reasons,
and on the other the science based believers disseminating overly conservative estimates for fear of being viewed as alarmist.

Well the fact is we passed the tipping point into runaway global warming in 2007 when under sea floor methane clathrates began to thaw, bubble to the surface and gather in our atmosphere. Meaning abatement of GHG induced GW is now impossible. We are now on a doomsday roller coaster ride and the ultimate destination is unknown.
Although worst case scenarion is a re-run of the Permian extinction.

So the way I look at it is, if these clowns are so determined to destroy this world, so be it.
When the climate wars start over water, I will not be humanist, I will be barbaric.[/quote]
I'm sorry English is not your first language.
I made no comment on AGW just the scientific fact that THE SUN is the major climate driver.
One I backed up with statements...
Did you miss them?

[Rorschach]

Weird... take 2...

You lot really should study the history of this planet before dismissing something you clearly know nothing about.

I'm sorry you don't believe in the science... but... the primary climate driver of our planet is THE SUN...

I do believe the genuine science, but not the bogus theory you believe which was debunked about a decade ago. Except the Sun is the primary climate system driver.
What you are calling science is bought and paid for fake science. No actually it is science as we know it.
The nuke industry has a conflict of interest regarding GW, because light water reactors only ruin on enriched uranium.
and uranium enrichment processing releases huge amounts of GHGs.

Fact is this planet has been warming for 18,000 years, and has phuk all to do with the sun. Except that's where the heat comes from
For roughly 100,000 years during the last ice age the planet got colder and colder year by year.
About 21,000 years ago the cooling halted.
Aprox 18,000 years ago the planet began to warm up, inducing 3 global floods - 17,000 years ago, 14,000 years ago, and 11,600 years ago.

Note these time frames do not correlate with the 'Precession of the Equinoxes' theory AKA Axial precession, in which the poles shift 30 degrees every 2165 years.
Usually the constant shift is slow, but in recent years the shift has doubled in pace, requiring compass bearings for naval/maritime and aerial navigation around the globe to be recalibrated at ever increasing paces.

These facts are recorded in the geological record, unlike your bogus theory/science which like archaeology is subject to a religious political agenda.
That's why if the want to study the history of this planet you research paleontology and geology, and ignore archaeology.

Y'see the GHG inding of GW theory can be repeatedly tested. That's called science.
The 'Sun did it theory' is no more than a conspiracy nutters fairy tale. You did see the Snowball Earth I posted just for you didn't you? Sun... green Earth... No Sun Snowball Earth. let me know when the penny drops.

Why?
Because of the political agenda against taxing GHG emissions by industries most responsible for it.

Is carbon tax a scam?
Yes.
Why?
Because such funds are not used to remediate or mitigate GHG induced GW.
The money goes into politicians superannuation accounts and subsidies for the biggest GHG emitters.

For a carbon tax to be effective, it should have been introduced 3 decades ago and used to aid transition from fossil fuels to hydrogen souced from thermal solar generated saline water electrolysis.

I'm actually quite critical of both sides on this debate.
On one side we've got the deniers determined to destroy the planet for religious reasons,
and on the other the science based believers disseminating overly conservative estimates for fear of being viewed as alarmist.

Well the fact is we passed the tipping point into runaway global warming in 2007 when under sea floor methane clathrates began to thaw, bubble to the surface and gather in our atmosphere. Meaning abatement of GHG induced GW is now impossible. We are now on a doomsday roller coaster ride and the ultimate destination is unknown.
Although worst case scenarion is a re-run of the Permian extinction.

So the way I look at it is, if these clowns are so determined to destroy this world, so be it.
When the climate wars start over water, I will not be humanist, I will be barbaric.

I'm sorry English is not your first language.
I made no comment on AGW just the scientific fact that THE SUN is the major climate driver.
As it has always been.
I thought I made that quite clear.
I even backed up with statements from educational/scientific articles from the NET....
Did you miss them?