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Re: Global Warming

Post by IQS.RLOW » Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:30 am

This will worry you, SN.

A fair dinkum, true blue, dinky di climate scientist says your mental health is at stake because you have dranked teh koolaid.
And finally, there are the numerous well meaning individuals who have allowed propagandists to convince them that in accepting the alarmist view of anthropogenic climate change, they are displaying intelligence and virtue For them, their psychic welfare is at stake.
I think has nailed you.
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Re: Global Warming

Post by Rorschach » Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:00 pm

Let's take a short trip back to the beginning of this farce and look at the who what and why of the IPCC.

The UN is responsible for the IPCC. It's climate agenda was based on the idea that wealth could be redistributed from wealthier countries to poorer countries, if only the right scam could be thought up.
“Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsiblity to bring that about?”
Maurice Strong, founder of the UN Environment Programme (UNEP)
“Current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class – involving high meat intake, use of fossil fuels, appliances, air-conditioning, and suburban housing – are not sustainable.”
Maurice Strong, Rio Earth Summit
“It is the responsibility of each human being today to choose between the force of darkness and the force of light. We must therefore transform our attitudes, and adopt a renewed respect for the superior laws of Divine Nature.“
- Maurice Strong, first Secretary General of UNEP

Strong was the driving force behind the idea of world governance by the United Nations. He would fund it by imposing a world tax on monetary transactions of 0.5% which would have given the UN an annual income of $1.5 trillion. About equal then to the income of the USA. The Security Council, and their power of veto stood in the way. He devised a plan to get rid of it but failed to get it implemented. Then came along the idea that global warming might just be the device to get his World Governance proposal up and running.

Funny how influential individuals with crazy agendas can influence so many. Al Gore's agenda (which nows seems mainly monetary) was supposedly instilled in him by the beliefs of one of his teachers. Gore became interested in global warming when he took a course at Harvard University with Professor Roger Revelle, one of the first scientists to measure carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.
If you needed any more evidence that the entire theory of manmade global warming was a scheme to redistribute wealth you got it Sunday when a leading member of the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change told a German news outlet, "[W]e redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy."

Such was originally published by Germany's NZZ Online Sunday, and reprinted in English by the Global Warming Policy Foundation moments ago:

(NZZ AM SONNTAG): The new thing about your proposal for a Global Deal is the stress on the importance of development policy for climate policy. Until now, many think of aid when they hear development policies.

(OTTMAR EDENHOFER, UN IPCC OFFICIAL): That will change immediately if global emission rights are distributed. If this happens, on a per capita basis, then Africa will be the big winner, and huge amounts of money will flow there. This will have enormous implications for development policy. And it will raise the question if these countries can deal responsibly with so much money at all.

(NZZ): That does not sound anymore like the climate policy that we know.

(EDENHOFER): Basically it's a big mistake to discuss climate policy separately from the major themes of globalization. The climate summit in Cancun at the end of the month is not a climate conference, but one of the largest economic conferences since the Second World War. Why? Because we have 11,000 gigatons of carbon in the coal reserves in the soil under our feet - and we must emit only 400 gigatons in the atmosphere if we want to keep the 2-degree target. 11 000 to 400 - there is no getting around the fact that most of the fossil reserves must remain in the soil.

(NZZ): De facto, this means an expropriation of the countries with natural resources. This leads to a very different development from that which has been triggered by development policy.

(EDENHOFER): First of all, developed countries have basically expropriated the atmosphere of the world community. But one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy. Obviously, the owners of coal and oil will not be enthusiastic about this. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole.
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Re: Global Warming

Post by Rorschach » Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:07 pm

Former U.S. Senator Timothy Wirth (D-CO), then representing the Clinton-Gore administration as U.S undersecretary of state for global issues, addressing the same Rio Climate Summit audience, agreed: “We have got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic policy and environmental policy.” (Wirth now heads the U.N. Foundation which lobbies for hundreds of billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars to help underdeveloped countries fight climate change.)
In 1988, former Canadian Minister of the Environment, told editors and reporters of the Calgary Herald: “No matter if the science of global warming is all phony…climate change [provides] the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world.”
In 1996, former Soviet Union President Mikhail Gorbachev emphasized the importance of using climate alarmism to advance socialist Marxist objectives: “The threat of environmental crisis will be the international disaster key to unlock the New World Order.”
It would seem then... that Climate Change Alarmism and it's real agenda has nothing to do with the real science.
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Re: Global Warming

Post by Super Nova » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:16 am

When we have the next global crisis... war... pestilence or global warming we shall be there to create the new world order...... :rofl

Or we could be just looking at the science and the forecast and think we need to have our mitigation strategies in place and activated.

It needs the world to pull together for the first time.
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Re: Global Warming

Post by IQS.RLOW » Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:43 am

The only pulling that is occurring is from you lot of panic merchants.

Your religion has been proven to be wrong and you are not allowed to force it on the rest of society. You are like the doomsday cultists who forecast the end of the world on a particular date and when it passes, you just claim "oh hang on a bit! We must have made a bit of an error and misread the Mayan calendar. It's not the 11/11 at 11.00am, its 6/6 at 6pm next year! Doh! Sorry about that. It's still on to end though."

I will repeat it again for you.
CO2 still increasing significantly.
NO GLOBAL WARMING FOR 17 YEARS!

Get that through your thick fucking head.
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Re: Global Warming

Post by Super Nova » Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:58 am

IQS.RLOW wrote: I will repeat it again for you.
CO2 still increasing significantly.
NO GLOBAL WARMING FOR 17 YEARS!

Get that through your thick fucking head.
CO2 is increasing.
Surface temperature has not ridden to predictions 15 years ago.
Earth is warming.
Mankind is a major contributor
Surface temperature not rising is starting to be understood, the energy has to go somewhere.
We need to mitigate the risks.

While I don't think you are thick you are denying the risks because you cannot feel the impact today or that the forecast was not accurate in the past. Under your logic, mankind should have given up on flight because someone tried to strap on feathers and fly. Their theory was not perfect so we should have given up.

We don't fully understand the chaos system that is our environment.... but we are learning and refining our models and theories. Therefore todays forecast has even more credibility than before.
The tale of Daedalus and Icarus is one of the most famous (and mythical) examples of early flight. According to legend, the father and son duo took to the sky on wings crafted from wood, wax, twine and bird feathers. Daedalus survived the flight, while Icarus plummeted to his death when the sun melted the wax holding his wings together. Historians typically date the story back to at least 1400 B.C
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Re: Global Warming

Post by IQS.RLOW » Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:08 am

CO2 is increasing.
Well duh...
Surface temperature has not ridden to predictions 15 years ago.
Bwhahahahaha is it really so hard to say you have to make this fluff up?
Earth is warming.
Wrong
Mankind is a major contributor
How much does man contribute? Percentage please...
Surface temperature not rising is starting to be understood, the energy has to go somewhere.
You warmies haven't got a clue but you've finally managed to grasp the concept of a self regulating system. So you admit its all a big mistake on behalf of you warmistas. Goodo.
We need to mitigate the risks.
What risk and how will you mitigate them?

I'm getting fucking sick of your fluffy responses and poofterised motherhood statements that say nothing and show that you have little understanding of the issue.
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Re: Global Warming

Post by Rorschach » Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:31 pm

I really don't understand why he just can't acknowledge the facts... we post enough of them.
Perhaps we are wasting our time on him.
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Re: Global Warming

Post by Neferti » Tue Aug 26, 2014 5:12 pm

Rorschach wrote:I really don't understand why he just can't acknowledge the facts... we post enough of them.
Perhaps we are wasting our time on him.
Listen. It is like trying to tell someone to "believe in god" ....... you should understand that. NOBODY listens to that crap. They either do or they don't. Rave on all you want and it won't happen. Blah blah blah blah.

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Re: Global Warming

Post by Rorschach » Tue Aug 26, 2014 5:37 pm

Super Nova wrote:When we have the next global crisis... war... pestilence or global warming we shall be there to create the new world order...... :rofl

Or we could be just looking at the science and the forecast and think we need to have our mitigation strategies in place and activated.

It needs the world to pull together for the first time.
Well SN considering what I pasted was accurate history backed up by accurate quotes, your attitude and ridicule seem very misplaced for someone who supposedly isn't just a climate change patsy.
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