This was taken from OZ pol, very pertinent-Black Orchid wrote:Don't you think that the number of Muslims not coming out against these radicals is relevant?
Please stop encouraging me to promote Muslims in a balanced manner. I dislike all religion in the same manner.'you won't see any muslim denouncing this'
'muslims only outraged about being victimised'
The usual crap we hear being screeched whenever these media circuses happen.
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There were about 100 people at Lakemba station for the protest in response to what organisers say is the Federal Government’s heavy-handed approach to the raids, which resulted in 15 arrests.
About 100 people turned up to this much publisised (and widely condemned) peaceful protest - out of an anticipated 2500 by the protest organisers. Or in other words, a gigantic flop.
To put this into context, this was about 10 times less muslims than those attended at the weekends "muslims 4 Australia" BBQ - organised to reaffirm muslim's rejection of extremism and solidarity with the wider Australian community.
As for the incessant claims that no mainstream leaders are standing up against all this.
Dr Jamal Rifi has taken a leadership role in the last couple of months in making a stand against ISIL on behalf of mainstream islam. Last month he offered to pay radicals a "one way ticket" to leave Australia. He has been at the forefront in campaigning to keep young impressionable muslims on the straight path, constantly condemning extremism, and receiving death threats for his efforts.
His calm and reasonable approach was exemplified on an interview on Lateline last night:
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I don't recall jumping at any mussie shadows not do recall lumping all Muslims as terrorists, as you claimed.400 attended. Really? How come all the press say it was 100, except for the mud press they say it was 150. Assuming it was 150, 150 out of hundreds of thousands. You're doing just what the gov want you to, jumping at muzzy shadows. Lumping all Muslims as terrorists is like lumping all Catholics as terrorists.
Of course there is a minority here supporting ISIS there are extremists no doubt about it. But most ISIS funding comes from theft I read somewhere recently they pulled off a massive heist and have the fundings of a small country thats why they're a danger money and a misguided belief are a dangerous mixture.Rorschach wrote:They didn't expect 2500 to show for no reason you know.
The millions going O/S to support ISIS is not the savings of 1 individual.
I'm quoting the millions in so-called donations from so-called Australian Muslims Skip.skippy wrote:Of course there is a minority here supporting ISIS there are extremists no doubt about it. But most ISIS funding comes from theft I read somewhere recently they pulled off a massive heist and have the fundings of a small country thats why they're a danger money and a misguided belief are a dangerous mixture.Rorschach wrote:They didn't expect 2500 to show for no reason you know.
The millions going O/S to support ISIS is not the savings of 1 individual.
A resident of Bursill Street, who wished to remain anonymous, has been trying to come to terms with the raids.
"I just find it so wrong for that to be happening here in Australia. How do we get to this stage that people are this out of control?" he said.
"You talk about the money going overseas - earlier this morning I heard $18 million or $20 million going overseas, and we don't know about it until it's too late."
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/a ... -1.1943735A Sydney money transfer business owned by the sister and brother-in-law of convicted terrorist Khaled Sharrouf, an Islamic State fighter, had its license suspended this week on suspicion it had been sending 1 million Australian dollars ($900,000) a month to the Middle East to finance terrorism, said John Schimdt, chief executive of the industry regulator and corruption watchdog AUSTRAC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keysar_TradTrad has become a highly controversial figure in Australia due to many of his activities, comments and views on matters relating to Islam:
-He once translated some articles for "Nidal ul Islam", the magazine of an Australian-based group called the 'Islamic Youth Movement', of which Bilal Khazal was once a member. The group has since been investigated for alleged terrorism-related offences.
-In 1995 he said, "The criminal dregs of white society colonised this country and...the descendents of these criminal dregs tell us that they are better than us."
-Trad was accused by the mainstream media of supporting "terrorism". They used his refusal to condemn organisations such as Hezbollah as an example, when in fact the only part of Hizbollah banned in Australia is the "The Hezbollah External Security Organization". In addition, his frequent criticism of Israel has been used by the media to portray him as anti-Semitic. Moreover, in August 2006, shortly after a ceasefire between Israel and Hezbollah was agreed to in order to end conflict, Trad and Hilaly wrote to the Lebanese Prime Minister, Fouad Siniora, urging him to reject Australian peacekeepers.
-He offended many moderate Muslims, as well as some Australians of Turkish background, when he alleged "Atatürk was in fact an opponent of the practice of Islam" when responding to Australian Treasurer Peter Costello's speech suggesting Attaturk as a model for Muslims.
-Throughout his years as Hilaly's spokesperson, Trad has been heavily criticised - and satirised - for continually defending Hilaly with his insistence that Hilaly has been taken out of context or misunderstood. For example, following the comments made by Hilaly in October 2006 which said that if a woman is raped it is usually her own fault, Trad said that Hilaly was talking about adultery, not rape. Sydney Morning Herald Columnist Paul Sheehan accused him of lying.
-In response to comments made by Sheik Hilaly on Egyptian TV, Trad once again suggested he was being quoted out of context.
-Trad succeeded in bringing a defamation claim against a Sydney radio station which described him as racist and offensive. A three judge panel in the Court of Appeal found that the Supreme Court Judge did not have a basis for describing Trad racist or offensive. However, the court ordered that only half of Trad's appeal costs be paid as some of the imputations fell under the technicality "reply to attack".
-In 2010, Trad advocated Shari'ah courts for Muslims to deal with matters relating to divorce and inheritance. He has also supported polygamy as an alternative to extramarital relations.
LOL, faint praise indeedBlack Orchid wrote:I have already paid tribute to those very few who have actually spoken out against the fanatics in their midst. It's a terrible shame there are so few. One has to wonder about their sincerity.
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