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Political leaders

Post by sprintcyclist » Fri May 24, 2019 8:04 am

Apparently the Leader of a party has a BIG say in what happens. I think that is a really bad idea.
A leader should present the consensus opinion.
Many ideas demanded by the one person have resulted in bad outcomes. So called 'Captains picks' or ideas made hastily.

When I plan for something I actively seek the opinions and inputs of various other people.
That way really bad decisions are avoided.
Right Wing is the Natural Progression.

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Re: Political leaders

Post by cods » Fri May 24, 2019 8:58 am

thats why they have ministers sprint......when it comes to tough decision thats when they use their power because someone has to...

I am sure its the same in your case if for and against turn out equal... you make the final call..

no one is really a world unto themselves unless your name is Clive Palmer.

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Re: Political leaders

Post by sprintcyclist » Fri May 24, 2019 9:25 am

cods wrote:
Fri May 24, 2019 8:58 am
thats why they have ministers sprint......when it comes to tough decision thats when they use their power because someone has to...

I am sure its the same in your case if for and against turn out equal... you make the final call..

no one is really a world unto themselves unless your name is Clive Palmer.
yes, guess so
Right Wing is the Natural Progression.

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Re: Political leaders

Post by brian ross » Fri May 24, 2019 2:25 pm

Under the Tories, the leader is supreme. He controls the tactics, the strategy and the polices of the Parliamentary wing of the party. the extra-Parliamentary wing is separate and has no control of the Parliamentary wing. When a leader fails, he is expected to resign, such as at an Election. The party is deemed to have failed because of poor direction. Basically, he takes the blame.

Under the ALP, the leader is primus inter pares - first amongst equals. While the leader has become more powerful since the days of Hawke, he is still subject to party discipline and while he directs many things, he doesn't control them. No "Captain's picks" per se in the ALP, without approval of Cabinent (or shadow Cabinet). The Parliamentary wing has been separated from the extra-Parliamentary wing, more or less, since the days of Hawke as well. Before that, all MPs and Senators were required to sign the "pledge" where they declared they would do as they were told by the extra-Parliamentary wing.
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Re: Political leaders

Post by Valkie » Fri May 24, 2019 4:53 pm

Political leaders

An oxymoron in any language

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Re: Political leaders

Post by brian ross » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:11 pm

Nationalism is not to be confused with patriotism. - Eric Blair

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Re: Political leaders

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Re: Political leaders

Post by cods » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:19 pm

when are they going to investigate Shortens involvement in the assassination of TWO Labor PMinsters??..

if morrison has a dark deep secret... [seriously in this day and age :roll: ].... he wouldnt be where he is now...

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Re: Political leaders

Post by brian ross » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:27 pm

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Re: Political leaders

Post by Black Orchid » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:34 pm

A very non-deserving 'recognition'.

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