Should Australia be adopting Nuclear Arms

[Black Orchid]

1861? Always current and up to date eh?

[brian ross]

1861? Always current and up to date eh?

An example, Black Orchid, a very relevant example.

[Black Orchid]

160 years ago is not a relevant example of today, Brian. *shakes head*

[brian ross]

160 years ago is not a relevant example of today, Brian. *shakes head*

I didn't claim it was an example of today, now did I, Black Orchid?

I suggested it was an example of how the US reacted to a separatist movement in it's own society. Rather similar actually to how the Chinese Communist party is reacting to one in XingXiang province. Funny that, hey?

Would you prefer one from the UK?

Stop erecting strawman arguments.

[Bogan]

That's it, Brian. Ignore my post because you do not want to address your own hypocrisy. You can not explain your own hypocrisy so all you can do is to pretend my post does not exist. But it does exist, Brian. And I am not going away. Your logic is totally bankrupt and all I have to do is to keep shoving it in your face every time you start strutting and preening yourself, and pretending that you are a moral paragon who fights against against racism, when you are quite clearly a racist yourself.

Brian Ross wrote

The Communist Party refuses to accept that people might owe allegiance to any other organisation in China. The Communist Party is supreme in their eyes.

We gee, Briney, isn't that why multiculturalism has (like socialism), always failed? People are tribal and territorial. You can import people from other cultures into any country and unless they substantially accept the culture of their hosts, then two things will happen. Their host population will not accept them, or they themselves will consider themselves separate and apart from the majority culture. What you will get instead of a stable country is an unstable collection of competing tribes.

How about we rewrite your own words from a different perspective?

How about "The Muslims refuses to accept that their people should owe allegiance to any other organisation except Islam. Islam is supreme in their eyes."

Two fundamentalist ideologies both of whom are demanding the allegiance from one people within one country can not work. Islam and communism are mutually exclusive religions, Brian.

[The4thEstate]

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That map shows how many Muslims there are in various parts of China. The Chinese are presently oppressing Muslims in only one province - Xingxiang - the dark bit off to the left there. There are Muslims throughout China who aren't being oppressed at all.

Welcome to Rationalization Theater!

Folks, this was better than I expected. I couldn't have written a satirical response as hilarious as the one Brian actually gave.

Let's go over this slowly: There are an estimated 1.5 million Uighurs currently being detained, re-educated and, if deemed necessary, tortured because of their religious beliefs.

And his answer was -- wait for it! -- "There are Muslims throughout China who aren't being oppressed at all."

You've just been treated to the Brian Ross version of "Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?"

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However, the true irony of Brian's reply is this: "The Uighurs are a tribe that only came under Chinese rule in the late 19th century. They have long refused to accept Beijings rule over them."

Of course they have ... just as many Muslim refugees and immigrants in Australia, the UK, France, Germany, the U.S. and other welcoming Western nations have refused to accept the rule of their new country, instead continuing to swear primary allegiance to Islam.

That's why you see, for example, young Somalis departing Minneapolis to enlist with Al-Shabaab ... and New Jersey-born Hoda Muthana leave the U.S. to become ISIS breeding stock. (Kudos to Trump for denying re-entry to non-citizen Muthana and her 2-year-old devil's spawn.)

Yet Brian is the first one to take offense to a statement like, "I would deny entry to Muslim refugees because of their disproportionate tendency to put their allegiance to Islam over that of their new country -- and worst of all, to behave radically, like the London Bridge stabber." (I can hear his weaselly response now: "But that's only SOME Muslims ..." -- completely ignoring the fact that refugee Christians, Jews, Yazidis, Buddhists, Hindus and other religious groups aren't nearly as inclined to turn on the nation that accepted them.)

The bottom line is that Brian's leftist affinity for the Communist Chinese is so deeply rooted that he'd rather rationalize the internment and torture of 1.5 million Muslims than admit that China's human rights violations make Gitmo look like a Caribbean resort. (Which reminds me of these classic bumper stickers sold by conservative talk show king Rush Limbaugh:)


Oh well, at least now we finally know where Brian's loyalties lie! Here are the current standings by my count (feel free to add to or adjust as you see fit):

1. Communist Chinese
2. Muslims
3. Western nations that don't detain and torture a million citizens for their religious beliefs

My, this little exchange has been unexpectedly enlightening!

[Nicole]

I haven’t seen a beating like this since Rodney King.

[Bogan]

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Both costs in Australian dollars.

[brian ross]

As usual, 4E quotes only part of my post. Tsk, tsk.

Run along 4E you are engaging in childish hysterics, typical of Trumpite thinking.

You haven't beaten me at all, you've just revealed how show your thought processes are. Tsk, tsk.

[Black Orchid]

How's life on your planet Brian?