All things Health (including Viruses like Covid)
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brian ross
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by brian ross » Mon May 04, 2020 3:29 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 1:36 pm
Nothing has been mentioned about the virus being man-made if that is what you are trying to allude to.
Well, el Presidente' Trump and Secretary of State, Pompeo appear to believe otherwise, Black Orchid. What do you think they mean when they claim it originated in a "lab"? You have quoted Pompeo twice now.

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northofnorth
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by northofnorth » Mon May 04, 2020 3:48 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 3:29 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 1:36 pm
Nothing has been mentioned about the virus being man-made if that is what you are trying to allude to.
Well, el Presidente' Trump and Secretary of State, Pompeo appear to believe otherwise, Black Orchid. What do you think they mean when they claim it originated in a "lab"? You have quoted Pompeo twice now.
What do Americans think their pilot means when he says 'We will be landing momentarily in Chicago'... What does it mean to British / Australians etc...
English ain't one thing... It originated in a lab... Have you thought that they might mean it came from a lab as opposed to engineered in a lab?
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billy the kid
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by billy the kid » Mon May 04, 2020 4:06 pm
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Redneck
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by Redneck » Mon May 04, 2020 4:07 pm
northofnorth wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 3:48 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 3:29 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 1:36 pm
Nothing has been mentioned about the virus being man-made if that is what you are trying to allude to.
Well, el Presidente' Trump and Secretary of State, Pompeo appear to believe otherwise, Black Orchid. What do you think they mean when they claim it originated in a "lab"? You have quoted Pompeo twice now.
What do Americans think their pilot means when he says 'We will be landing momentarily in Chicago'... What does it mean to British / Australians etc...
English ain't one thing... It originated in a lab... Have you thought that they might mean it came from a lab as opposed to engineered in a lab?
Thats how I read it as escaped from a lab, but may not be have been created in the lab
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Black Orchid
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by Black Orchid » Mon May 04, 2020 4:19 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 3:29 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 1:36 pm
Nothing has been mentioned about the virus being man-made if that is what you are trying to allude to.
Well, el Presidente' Trump and Secretary of State, Pompeo appear to believe otherwise, Black Orchid. What do you think they mean when they claim it originated in a "lab"? You have quoted Pompeo twice now.
Like most people I think they meant that it came out of the lab in question (originated there) not that it was specifically engineered there.
Read the words, Brian. Don't misconstrue them.
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brian ross
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by brian ross » Mon May 04, 2020 4:26 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 4:19 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 3:29 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 1:36 pm
Nothing has been mentioned about the virus being man-made if that is what you are trying to allude to.
Well, el Presidente' Trump and Secretary of State, Pompeo appear to believe otherwise, Black Orchid. What do you think they mean when they claim it originated in a "lab"? You have quoted Pompeo twice now.
Like most people I think they meant that it came out of the lab in question (originated there) not that it was specifically engineered there.
Read the words, Brian. Don't misconstrue them.
I'm not misconstruing anything. I have asked for clarification. Now, why would it come from a lab (apparently deliberately)? What would be the point of releasing it into their own population? Please answer, Black Orchid.
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Black Orchid
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by Black Orchid » Mon May 04, 2020 4:34 pm
northofnorth wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 3:26 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 1:36 pm
Nothing has been mentioned about the virus being man-made if that is what you are trying to allude to.
Yes... Not genetically engineered... Its the 'cock-up' theory... Poor bis-security standards at the WIV caused an accidental infection(s) that went unnoticed until symptoms in the victim became apparent...
The CCP's first crime was to try to get away with it by covering it up and deflecting attention away from the lab to ... wherever... The US Military, then a fish market, then a wet market...
The first - (US military) ridiculous... The second and third? Likely, simply retracing patient 0's movements based on where she said she went each day after leaving the WIV...
I read originally that she and her boyfriend went to the wet markets and little has been said since that I have seen. Maybe she did and maybe the CCP seized on that.
Trying to blame the US military was yet another huge mistake as was refusing the help of the US and other countries in the early days of the outbreak.
One would think they would be slightly more adept at spreading their propaganda by now but we have seen how Chinese living abroad jump when told to buy up PPEs and send them back to China and even those in the west constantly trying to gloss over any wrong doing by way of deflection so I guess their propaganda does in fact work on the weak.
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Black Orchid
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by Black Orchid » Mon May 04, 2020 4:36 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 4:26 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 4:19 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 3:29 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 1:36 pm
Nothing has been mentioned about the virus being man-made if that is what you are trying to allude to.
Well, el Presidente' Trump and Secretary of State, Pompeo appear to believe otherwise, Black Orchid. What do you think they mean when they claim it originated in a "lab"? You have quoted Pompeo twice now.
Like most people I think they meant that it came out of the lab in question (originated there) not that it was specifically engineered there.
Read the words, Brian. Don't misconstrue them.
I'm not misconstruing anything. I have asked for clarification. Now, why would it come from a lab (apparently deliberately)? What would be the point of releasing it into their own population? Please answer, Black Orchid.
Geez Brian maybe it was accidental or caused by mishandling? Who said anything about deliberately unleashing it on their own population?

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northofnorth
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by northofnorth » Mon May 04, 2020 4:42 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 4:26 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 4:19 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 3:29 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 1:36 pm
Nothing has been mentioned about the virus being man-made if that is what you are trying to allude to.
Well, el Presidente' Trump and Secretary of State, Pompeo appear to believe otherwise, Black Orchid. What do you think they mean when they claim it originated in a "lab"? You have quoted Pompeo twice now.
Like most people I think they meant that it came out of the lab in question (originated there) not that it was specifically engineered there.
Read the words, Brian. Don't misconstrue them.
I'm not misconstruing anything. I have asked for clarification. Now, why would it come from a lab (apparently deliberately)? What would be the point of releasing it into their own population? Please answer, Black Orchid.
Might pay to be less of a fool (although maybe English isn't your first language) ... There is no indication of 'deliberately'...
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northofnorth
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by northofnorth » Mon May 04, 2020 4:51 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 4:34 pm
northofnorth wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 3:26 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 1:36 pm
Nothing has been mentioned about the virus being man-made if that is what you are trying to allude to.
Yes... Not genetically engineered... Its the 'cock-up' theory... Poor bis-security standards at the WIV caused an accidental infection(s) that went unnoticed until symptoms in the victim became apparent...
The CCP's first crime was to try to get away with it by covering it up and deflecting attention away from the lab to ... wherever... The US Military, then a fish market, then a wet market...
The first - (US military) ridiculous... The second and third? Likely, simply retracing patient 0's movements based on where she said she went each day after leaving the WIV...
I read originally that she and her boyfriend went to the wet markets and little has been said since that I have seen. Maybe she did and maybe the CCP seized on that.
Trying to blame the US military was yet another huge mistake as was refusing the help of the US and other countries in the early days of the outbreak.
One would think they would be slightly more adept at spreading their propaganda by now but we have seen how Chinese living abroad jump when told to buy up PPEs and send them back to China and even those in the west constantly trying to gloss over any wrong doing by way of deflection so I guess their propaganda does in fact work on the weak.
Yes... I think totalitarians are so used to being unquestioned by a population that at least pretends to believe even the most ridiculous propaganda, they lose focus on what their garbage sounds like to those outside their control.
Remember the old East German joke... 'They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work'...
Those who remember Nazi propaganda will tell you of the final statement of the newsreader over the radio after reporting a litany of glorious victories by the German armed forces... "And that's all you need to know"...
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