Right Wingers back in fashion

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Re: Right Wingers back in fashion

Post by IQSRLOW » Sun May 09, 2010 10:22 pm

Actually it would have been an analogy
You mean it would have been an analogy if it wasn't a red herring and it is, so it wasn't, never was and never could be.

Obviously your presentation and interpretation of analogies is on par with your serving up of red herrings. Atrociously inadequate.

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Re: Right Wingers back in fashion

Post by Sappho » Mon May 10, 2010 10:07 am

TomB wrote:Do you know how much tax the actual workers in the mines pay?
Your analogy fails because you cannot compare the workers with the creators of work and then claim they should be treated similarly.

The mining boom could very well bust if Krudd persists with this resource tax. Unemployment and budget deficits would rise beyond our capacity to pay as production is reduced and moved off shore.

So let this be a lesson to you Tom... politicians do not rule the country... corporations do.

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Re: Right Wingers back in fashion

Post by TomB » Mon May 10, 2010 4:31 pm

Sappho wrote:Your analogy fails because you cannot compare the workers with the creators of work and then claim they should be treated similarly.
Firstly, just answer the question. Secondly, the resource they generate huge profits from belongs to all Australians and the people who actually get it out of the ground have to pay more tax doing so than the company which employs them.

Sappho wrote:So let this be a lesson to you Tom... politicians do not rule the country... corporations do.
I can assure you that that is no lesson to me. The Liberals gave them so much power during their tenure that it may well be impossible to reign them in. As it stands we have had to go on a massive spending spree just to avert a recession caused by guess who .... 'corporations'.
You vote, you lose!

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Re: Right Wingers back in fashion

Post by Sappho » Mon May 10, 2010 7:36 pm

TomB wrote:Firstly, just answer the question.
It was a silly question in the first place. Secondly, you have already conceded that it served as more of an analogy and as such is nothing more than the fallacy of begging the question.
Secondly, the resource they generate huge profits from belongs to all Australians and the people who actually get it out of the ground have to pay more tax doing so than the company which employs them.
Focusing in on Western Australia only, how much tax should the mining industry pay over and above the $1.6 billion in royalties paid in 2009, for example?

Or maybe, if it is equality you seek, not only are you suggesting that the mining industry should pay taxes on profits over and above royalties, but also that workers should pay royalties for the right to work in that mining industry? (A rhetorical question aimed at showing the absurdity of your question begging analogy.)
As it stands we have had to go on a massive spending spree just to avert a recession caused by guess who .... 'corporations'.
I take it, you have not heard of the govt. bond bubble gripping the world as the second wave of this Global Credit Crunch kicks in.
The Liberals gave them so much power during their tenure that it may well be impossible to reign them in.
That is too one eye'd for my tastes. As a swinging voter, I have no allegiance and so see quite clearly that there is no 'Labor' or 'Liberal' parties... merely conservative, centralist, populist, governments who move to the will of multinational corporates and the US... with a smattering of local governance... although with labor's drive to centralize, even that local flavor is in doubt.

A dead rose, by any other name, would smell just as foul.

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Re: Right Wingers back in fashion

Post by J.W. Frogen » Wed May 12, 2010 9:38 pm

Right is back baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know I am going to sell Augusto Pinoche T shirts this summer at the Glastonbury Festival.

Che an't got shit on this

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