C'mon SC

[TomB]

Haven't you got something to say about Abbott admitting that he lies to the general public?

[sprintcyclist]

sure, what he said was "At times in the heat of conversation he goes further than he should"

I do too. At times after a heated discussion I think "Maybe I went to far there."


But, you imply that every pollie always says the 100% truth.


I like the libs, but think they make bad desicions at times.
I live in an imperfect world. you ?

[TomB]

You may or may not be in a position to get carried away and not have any consequences, I wouldn't know or care. Abbott on the other hand wants to be the PM of Australia and we should be able to rely on him to present only factual correct information to us. It seems however that he is tarred with the same brush as John Howard and won't hesitate to use rhetoric and misinformation to make other people look evil. (ref. children overboard affair)

[freediver]

Abbot got busted lying a few years back, saying he knew nothing about it, when he did.

[sprintcyclist]

if you want to vote in a saint, go right ahead.

or, if you want to grow up, then make your best decision

[freediver]

Are you saying Abbott is not a saint?

[sprintcyclist]

yes, abbott is not a saint.
Abbott is undoubtly imperfect.

When ruddy said garrett is doing a 1st class jod as a minister, then dumped him weeks later ............
.......... was ruddy lying ? Which would be perfectly understandable.
Or was rudd so unbeleviably out of touch with reality that he actually believed garrett was going well??

same as gillard and her BER fiasco

[freediver]

Is Abbott a liar sprint?

[Sappho]

Abbott on the other hand wants to be the PM of Australia and we should be able to rely on him to present only factual correct information to us.

Do you people even believe the shit you spin? Laugh my fucking arse off! If you want that from Abbott, then you gotta demand that of Rudd too... do you?

Meanwhile, Abbott's honest assessment of his style also makes note of the fact that he gets passionate about matters political and therefore cares about matters political.

(The worse thing about this thread is that defending a catholic prig whilst questioning the man I helped to vote in!)

[IQSRLOW]

You need your arse kicked Sappho.

As a swinging voter, you were warned by all the rightys that this would be exactly what you would get under Labor but still you voted for him?

I can only hope this is a case of once bitten, twice shy and you never make that silly mistake again. With all the pedantic posturing through the media, the only thing that really counts is results.

If you write down on paper the results that this govt has delivered, the best thing about it is you would save a fucking lots of trees