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Re: Mandatory school uniforms

Post by Super Nova » Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:50 am

I am all for school uniforms.

I came from the poor housing commision area of a small country town.

I basically had only one of anything at any point in tiem and wore them out. Christ, I remember put a hole in my new trousers on my first day wearing them, mum patched it up and i wore it with that patch for over 2 years. It was cheeper for my parents I think to cloth me once and i just had to wear the same cloths all week. I had 2 shirts and my mother washed every day. If i had to wear my own clothes to school I would have stood out as being very poor. Don't forget the hand me downs and secondhand cloths that go around. I think a uniform is an equaliser. Give the bloody kids a chance by making them all equal at school is my view.
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Re: Mandatory school uniforms

Post by Jovial Monk » Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:03 am

and these days with TV and advertising kids would be looked down on if they couldn’t afford the latest sneakers or whatever, peer pressure is over the top these days.

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Re: Mandatory school uniforms

Post by Super Nova » Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:52 pm

Jovial Monk wrote:and these days with TV and advertising kids would be looked down on if they couldn’t afford the latest sneakers or whatever, peer pressure is over the top these days.
Spot on.

Today more than ever with the demand for fashion at a young age, it is clear who has and has not by the cloths they wear.

A child should have every chance to escape there socio-economic background. They are at school to learn as equals, judge on their abilities not where they come from.

School uniforms help as a leveler.
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Re: Mandatory school uniforms

Post by Jovial Monk » Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:10 pm

And if a burqa was part of the school uniform no one would know if a girl was pretty or not! hey!

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Re: Mandatory school uniforms

Post by Super Nova » Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:32 pm

That's the whole idea of them.
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Re: Mandatory school uniforms

Post by boxy » Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:30 pm

Supposed to be to demonstrate their humility, or summit :roll:

But then, how much different are the reasons behind our mandatory uniform policies (apart from the fact that it's not forced on grown adults)?
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Re: Mandatory school uniforms

Post by Super Nova » Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:47 pm

Boxy,

Pretty different I think.

The Burka (sp) ...was conceived on the bases that the Quoran or Koran states that women should no wear clothing that outlines their shape ...etc and they should be modest in their appearance. It does not state they should be covered up like they are with the Burka and vail.

However over time this was warped into something else. Since it is the fault of women that men get turned on if they see a shapely and attractive women, it is the responsiblility of all women to hide their shape and their face from ever man other than when they are in their home in the company of family. A common colour and design makes sure no women stands out from the other. So us men get not get excitied. it's purpose is completely different to the school uniform.

The school uniform provides a dress code where social diffences are not so obvious, Like army uniforms i guess. Functional and fit for purpose. We are a collective with a single purpose.
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Re: Mandatory school uniforms

Post by freediver » Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:04 pm

I still remember when they tried to get rid of the waist high pleated skirts that the girls wore as part of the school uniform. Fortunately they backed down.

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Re: Mandatory school uniforms

Post by boxy » Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:57 pm

Super Nova wrote:Since it is the fault of women that men get turned on if they see a shapely and attractive women, it is the responsiblility of all women to hide their shape...
They should just put on some extra weight, like normal western women :P


But seriously, I think at least part of the motivation (perhaps unstated or subconscious) for school uniforms is to control sexually provocative clothing in teens. Yes, it's no where near as extreme as those foolish, and demeaning burkas, but still, the same motivations behind it.
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Re: Mandatory school uniforms

Post by Sappho » Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:41 am

HIGHERBEAM wrote:
Wow, news break! Aussie kids forced to wear uniforms! It's a socialist conspiracy!

Have you noticed that most Aussie school kids already wear uniforms?
Well done Boxy have you finished with that chook yet,Underprivilidged areas have to find that money in the first place and then claim it back chookf****r but the loonie left dont think of that they have got grand ideas of a socialist state where everyone is equal,just crawl back under your rock and when you have a argument we will tell you and you may come out.
The underprivileged if they cannot afford the uniform, can apply to the school for assistance in providing the uniform... that has always been in place. That goes for the school books too. They are either given to the student without cost, or, the cost is repaid interest free over time according to the budget of the individual family.

As a highly individualized person, it surprises some that I should support the wearing of uniforms at school. My main argument is that school is not only a place to acquire scholastic wisdom, but also social wisdom. Branding the visual appearance with sameness forces those individuals to look beyond appearance to the person themselves. Children are shallow, due to their lack of wisdom, so are easily swayed to make unhealthy and incorrect links between fashionable clothes and worthy people. Uniforms help to remove that false correlation from their assessments.

Then there are the practical concerns such as school pride, easy identification etc...

I do think however that it is time to remove that anathema of social status... the tie.

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