Ukraine is in trouble

[Bobby]

There is a hell of a lot of dishonesty in Ukraine:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pe ... r-AA1RccFl

Peace Plan Bombshell:

Ukrainians Reportedly Re-Wrote Plan to Give Themselves Full Immunity and Remove Audit of International Aid.


A senior U.S. official said that Ukraine significantly changed one of the 28 points in the version that appeared online. In an apparent move to expose alleged corruption, the draft had called for an audit of all international aid Ukraine had received. The language was changed to say all parties will receive “full amnesty for their actions during the war.”

[Ukrainian national security secretary Rustem] Umerov in his statement Friday denied that Ukraine had altered the provision.



According to a Wall Street Journal report from last week that's just getting more play in the social media sphere, it turns out that the U.S.-proffered version of a brokered peace between Kyiv and Moscow eliminated, at Ukraine's request, a call for an audit like the one described above.

This comes as Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has been under fire at home for a major corruption scandal involving close associates of his who were allegedly involved in a $100 million energy-sector embezzlement scheme.

I know, right? Corruption in Ukraine's energy sector? Who would have ever thought it?

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Ukrainian national security secretary Rustem] Umerov

He used to be defense minister and cheburek eater


As for corruption in Ukraine - there is strong suspicion that some of US and Europe top politicians have been involved in the corruption schemes as well, remember Bidens and Ukrainian Burisma scandal.

https://oversight.house.gov/blog/eviden ... g-schemes/

[Bobby]

Ukraine is full of crooks and it has US crooks as well, skimming off money.

[Jasin]

They're still Soviets at heart.

[Bobby]

They're still Soviets at heart.

None of the European countries have converted to a wartime economy
and called for mass conscription to obtain millions of soldiers.
If they did I guess they would have to half all public service pay
and social welfare payments -
that would put them into economic depression conditions -
more than just a recession
and could lead to massive political uprisings and
even the overthrow of Govts.
I think they are all hoping the war will just go away -
but I don't think it will -
Putin just keeps making maximalist demands which can't be met.

[Bobby]

The USA is involved with supplying intelligence to Ukraine:

They have many military spy satellites similar in size to the Hubble space telescope
but they aren't pointed at the stars they are pointed at the Earth.
They are providing detailed real time intelligence to Ukraine -
exactly what the KH-11 satellites do is highly classified.
Trump might cut off that information if Ukraine won't sign the "peace deal".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KH-11_KENNEN

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EU Foreign Minister Kaja Kallas stated that quick path to peace is not beneficial for Ukraine.

Typical thinking of EU neo-commies.

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Three more Bushmasters were destroyed in less then a week, all within Pokrovsk encirclement.

bushmasters.jpg

I think that judging by vegetation colour 63417 was done in September or early October but was added to the database only now.

[Bobby]

Three more Bushmasters were destroyed in less then a week, all within Pokrovsk encirclement.

bushmasters.jpg

I think that judging by vegetation colour 63417 was done in September or early October but was added to the database only now.

What a pity - our valuable contributions going up in smoke.
War is such a waste of people and treasure.

[Jasin]

The reason why, at the start, Russia just waltzed into Ukraine without fear of retaliation is because they had the blessings and guarantees of many EU nations who knew Russia would process and give a better deal on resources and food costs, than what Ukraine were giving them. A lot of EU nations wanted Zelensky out of the picture.
All that went up in smoke when the Media supported the 'javelin' attacks on the Russian convoys, which made sensational news across the world.
The EU, has also had the American Democrats (& pre-Trimp Republicans) propping up their NATO financially and have sat back lazily exploiting that. Trump has ended that.
Now the entire EU has to save face and backtrack on their stance against Ukraine because of Media bias for Ukraine.
But it will eventually work out for the EU, who now have a very heavily indebted Ukraine to be exploited when the war ends.
My work there was based on 'foreign investment' for when the dust settles.
In essence, Ukraine's original stance of ripping off the EU has fallen flat. They now have a credit card to pay off and Russia looks like it will get to keep some territories for its troubles.