Do Women Who Have Killed, Claim Life Does Not Begin At

[Rainbow Moonlight]

Um - i can ID if you like Kanki. You know how very likely if it is you- just pm me if you do want me to. Tell me what i told Frogen that he told you that i then discussed with you and tell me what decision you talked to me about making.

Nice to see you if it is you- always liked you and your contributions to PA. Liked Ravi too. I was very upset at the time about what happened when i tried to join Boomshanka. However that's history.

[JW Frogen]

It is Kanki.

But if you want to be sure ele ask her to ask you what I asked her when you asked me not to ask her, if she tells you what I told her about what I would tell you when I asked her about what she asked you, then you know it is not really her or you but really me, well, maybe me.


But back the subject, no woman here (except ele who not only understands abortion is killing but does not find it just killing) could admit it is killing and then justify it, revealing they in their heart of hearts, probably do not really believe it is just killing.

Just convenient killing.

[mantra.]

But back the subject, no woman here (except ele who not only understands abortion is killing but does not find it just killing) could admit it is killing and then justify it, revealing they in their heart of hearts, probably do not really believe it is just killing.

Just convenient killing.

There you go making nasty assumptions again.

Still, as far as I can tell Deepy has never decended into "imaganative" child abuse as a form of political argument.

What depravity many on our PA Left will justify in order to feel politically "just".

No - but you Frogen, his alter ego, descend into "imaginative" and vile accusations of women being baby killers as a form of political argument. You are the master of depravity as you keep telling us and if it can be applied politically - you are the first to do it.

[Auzgurl]

is it the" dog with a bone "style of posting that alerted you mantra..?

[JW Frogen]

But back the subject, no woman here (except ele who not only understands abortion is killing but does not find it just killing) could admit it is killing and then justify it, revealing they in their heart of hearts, probably do not really believe it is just killing.

Just convenient killing.

There you go making nasty assumptions again.

Still, as far as I can tell Deepy has never decended into "imaganative" child abuse as a form of political argument.

What depravity many on our PA Left will justify in order to feel politically "just".

No - but you Frogen, his alter ego, descend into "imaginative" and vile accusations of women being baby killers as a form of political argument. You are the master of depravity as you keep telling us and if it can be applied politically - you are the first to do it.

Not baby killers, I think a baby is considered to have been delivered. Your argument seems not to like that concept.

Killing a life.

Your inability to concede this does no justice to the very weak argument you have made to justify your preferred form of killing.

So far all I have from you Mantra is it is tramatic, but not killing, but women never get over it, but it is not killing, and men should not talk about it, unless they agree with it, but it is not killing, so let's all just keep quiet about it.

I would not put that argument up even before a jury of crack whores.

[mantra.]

Your inability to concede this does no justice to the very weak argument you have made to justify your preferred form of killing.

You have a way with words Frogen - your nemesis does you proud. I don't condone killing in any form, whether it's a new life within the body or on the battle ground in the name of democracy, but everyone has their own story and we have to judge people individually if we are to pass moral judgement. Because you eagerly participated in a farce of a "war" and some of your mates enjoyed slaughtering Arabs and raping young girls - should we assume that all marines enjoy doing this?

[JW Frogen]

Your inability to concede this does no justice to the very weak argument you have made to justify your preferred form of killing.

You have a way with words Frogen - your nemesis does you proud. I don't condone killing in any form, whether it's a new life within the body or on the battle ground in the name of democracy, but everyone has their own story and we have to judge people individually if we are to pass moral judgement. Because you eagerly participated in a farce of a "war" and some of your mates enjoyed slaughtering Arabs and raping young girls - should we assume that all marines enjoy doing this?

If you do not condone killing in any form then one would think you can no longer support abortion. But you do, so you do condone it in some forms. You just can't make an honest argument because you can not be honest with yourself. (I disagree with ele that killing in both war and abortion is always wrong, but at least she is consistent and has thought about it.)

I do condone killing, or accept it, for the greater good.

So I include many abortions and many wars in that category.

As for me and my friends killing Arabs, well I don't know, when I fronted up to previously occupied Kuwait City after the US military had killed a lot of invading Iraqis, every Kuwaiti, every Kuwaiti, without exception was pretty happy to see us. And pretty fucking angry at Iraq.
And if I had told them the Mantras of the world would have left them under Saddam's thumb, (or in his torture chambers), I can assure you, and they would have thought you the real killer.

The moral judgement is not passed on the woman who kills by abortion, it is passed on the woman who pretends she is not killing.

She is the rapist in war. The same mindset, the arugment that states 'I will redifine the very nature of life to make my killing easy'.

The difference between us is I am actually thinking about what I advocate and you are advocating what makes you feel good.

[Auzgurl]

Noone likes killing , born or unborn, in war or on the street..but sometinmes it is neccessary. And sometimes in life we just have to accept there arwe some things we cant change..its out of our hands..not our decision.

Its not easy to have these discussions where we have to sit on the opposite side of the self appointed and self righteous and argue a case for killing the unborn, because no matter how complelling our argument is there is always the old emotive hypocritical bile thrown back..We do it because we know that sometimes its just the way it is . There has to be balance.

It would be easy for me to pretend I have higher moral values , call myself an anti abortionist, call the rest of you killers and scum, and just point a finger and toss around phrases such as " cant you hear the sceaming of the womb"??

FFS !!

It must have been a slow and boring sunday when Frogen decided to rehash this one.

[JW Frogen]

Noone likes killing , born or unborn, .

Really?

Pastafetusdeleter seems to have another view. According to him he has never killed at all. Just like Doctor Mengele was only conducting harmless experiments for the good of humankind.

And Mantra condemns killing while saying women suffer from it so much they must go unquestioned when they do it.

The world is a carnival.

[Auzgurl]

Noone likes killing , born or unborn, .

Really?

Pastafetusdeleter seems to have another view. According to him he has never killed at all. Just like Doctor Mengele was only conducting harmless experiments for the good of humankind.

Thats not what he said..

And Mantra condemns killing while saying women suffer from it so much they must go unquestioned when they do it.

The world is a carnival

Neither mantra or myself have said this[ just proves you have cherry picked everything we have written on the topic so far]..we are or were presenting the other side the "arguement" , for it is you who claims all pple who have decided to abort do so without any thought to the gravity of what is they are about to do.

I want you to prove your claim or shut your mouth.

The same to rainbow..and I hope one day she doesnt just find out her daughter has slipped of to an abortion clinic to have a quite little abortion without mummy knowing...fuck wont that burst a great big bubble in her perfect little world.?

And Frogen I'm not sure you have ever been to war..mantra seems to know more about the "actual" war than you do.